[meteorite-list] Tom Phillips Gallery listing on MT and Goodbye Tom

From: Ruben Garcia <*mrmeteorite_at_meteoritecentral.com*> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:40:36 -0700 Message-ID: <AANLkTik62AjcCJUmTmMXF6pSpdP96Q80O0uzx5UuSQjV_at_mail.gmail.com> · mrmeteorite_at_meteoritecentral.com

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On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Paul Harris <paul at meteorite.com> wrote:
> Dear List and Carl,
>
>
> To Carl:
>
> In reply to your statement.
>
> "I noticed that MT no longer displays a link to Tom's web site. What is up
> with that MT?"
>
> Let me help you find the link we have to Tom's Gallery on Meteorite-Times.
> ?On the right side of the page is a column with groups of links. One of
> these groups is called "Meteorite Resources". ?If you look down the list you
> will see "Meteorite Pictures / Collections / Museums". ?If you click on this
> link you will see the listing to Tom's Gallery.
>
> http://www.meteorite-times.com/meteorite-pictures/
>
>
>
> To Everyone:
>
> It's truly sad that Tom Phillips is no longer on the m-list, nor will he be
> sharing his amazing images with us anymore. ?All Tom wanted to do was share
> cool beautiful views of meteorites in a way that we would have never seen
> without him...
>
> Below is an email I wrote to Tom. ?I've removed the name and subject but the
> involved parties will know.
>
>
> ? ?Hi Tom,
>
> ? ?I've been mulling this around this morning because I don't want
> ? ?meteorite.com or your gallery to be caught up in any controversy...
>
> ? ?The fact that I've been thinking about this and you're writing me
> ? ?again confirms that we are both on track knowing that these statements
> will
> ? ?indeed bring us into the conflict.
>
> ? ?My decision is to just present your wonderful images without the
> ? ?controversy. ?I'm much to busy to be involved in WWIII.
>
> ? ?If ******* wants statements about ^^^^^^^ included then maybe ******* can
> post them.
>
> ? ?Please let me know your thoughts...
>
> ? ?Paul
>
>
> Tom was both used and condemned by members of this list who acted a judge,
> jury and executioner. ?And what was Tom guilty of? ?Tom was guilty of being
> non-political and having the insane notion that we would be interested in
> seeing images of meteorites with questions.
>
> On this Thanksgiving maybe we should all reflect back on all the joy and
> wonder Tom's images brought us. ?Thank you Tom for the thousands of hours
> you spent at eyepiece to bring us those incredible sights.
>
> Maybe next time we can walk a few steps in other person's shoes before we
> impale them with our deadly keystrokes...
>
> Paul
>
>
>
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>
>
> On 11/24/2010 9:03 AM, cdtucson at cox.net wrote:
>>
>> Dave,
>> To answer your question without ?using a back door approach to sell ?my
>> thin section. Yes, thin sections are a very important part of the
>> classification process. They give the viewer the ability to optically
>> determine what the mineralogy is within the rock. That said, if you have a
>> good Scanning Electron microscope this can be done with or without a thin
>> section ?in some cases. The microprobe is an additional tool that ?tells the
>> Scientist what he or she is looking at as well but in a much more modern and
>> accurate way. Keep in mind Thin sections at one time were all we had until
>> the advent of the SEM Scanning Electron Microprobe.
>> It should be clear what Tom Phillips offers is not and never was intended
>> for classification purposes. He is an artistic genius of sorts and offers us
>> a wonderful perspective of a different World if you will. ?Please read Tom's
>> statement in his own words below;
>>
>> " I have often said that you would not use my images for classification.
>> ?As I am examining known material, I don't think that matters. ?I show
>> things others do not. ?In ways most have not even tried. ?It does not get
>> any easier to increase magnification and still maintain the lighting control
>> and clarity. ?Then there are the high magnification reflected light shots
>> like what was posted on NWA 5363, who else shows what the material really
>> looks like at that magnification. I have no problem with acknowledging the
>> lack of traditional classification usefulness but what does bother me is the
>> dismissing of very interesting and unexplained structures my images reveal
>> as useless just because the viewer is unfamiliar with what they are looking
>> at."
>>
>> I would like to add that sometimes Scientists do find subjects within
>> meteorites that require such high magnifications (look at ALH84001) but if
>> you want to see a great variety and extremely interesting images . Well, Tom
>> Phillips is simply the best at what he does. Period.
>>
>> Tom has been insulted and attacked now enough times that he is likely to
>> be calling it quits. I'm not sure he even reads this list anymore? I noticed
>> that MT no longer displays a link to Tom's web site. What is up with that
>> MT? This is indeed a sad day for our wonderful Meteorite community and this
>> great met-list.
>> I hope that this community embraces Tom and encourages him to continue in
>> spite of some recent unwarranted attacks of him for NO good reason.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> Carl or Debbie Esparza
>> Meteoritemax
>>
>>
>> ---- Dave Myers<whitefalcons007 at yahoo.com> ?wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey Tom and list!
>>>
>>> Sorry for all the miss-spelled words!
>>>
>>> like "Top Phillips".........ment Tom,
>>> I find myself lately trying to type faster then my pay-grade! ......LOL
>>>
>>> you all take care!
>>>
>>> dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Dave Myers<whitefalcons007 at yahoo.com>
>>> To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> Sent: Tue, November 23, 2010 4:21:14 PM
>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Question, Thinn sections
>>>
>>> Hi List,
>>>
>>> I list I have a question about thinn section photos, Like the great
>>> photos Top
>>> Phillips takes.
>>>
>>> Those ?who study meteorite or classify them, Can they tell just by
>>> looking at
>>> the photos, if
>>> the thenn section is from a meteorite?? Can they tell if it is a Lunar or
>>> Martian meteorite from the thinn section photo?? ?Or do they need the
>>> ?thinn
>>> section in hand to put through a type of spectrometor??
>>>
>>> And is that even enough to tell, or does all the other testing have to be
>>> done
>>> to tell if it is a meteorite, is a Lunar or martian.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any info.
>>>
>>> dave
>>>
>>>
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