[meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Martin Goff's Out Reach

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 12:01:21 -0500
Message-ID: <CAKBPJW99hc29JczWje=fZL2JQOQy2_VCHADjEh=AE2tfhrX+BA_at_mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jim and List,

Please do not take this as a knock at the IMCA, because it is not
intended that way, and I certainly do want to experience the old
"shoot the messenger" syndrome again.

How exactly does anyone "guarantee authenticity" in regards to meteorites?

Let's look at a typical example that happens on a daily basis in the
meteorite community :

If I am offered a specimen of Battle Mountain by a dealer. How do I
really know that it is Battle Mountain and not one of hundreds of NWA
L6 look-a-likes? Regardless of whether or not the seller is an IMCA
member, how can one guarantee authenticity of any specimen, unless
that particular specimen has been examined and analyzed by a reputable
scientist?

I do not know of any dealers who have every batch of material they
acquire tested at a lab. They use a combination of faith in their
sources and hand-examination to determine if the material should be
offered. Sure, new unclassified material is analyzed to have it
classified and officially approved by Met Soc. But what about NWA
869? How many dealers have their NWA 869 analyzed prior to offering
it? If it is untested, then how can one make any guarantees?

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 11/23/14, Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> The IMCA has but one purpose, does it not? How can you possibly argue
> that???
>   It's for collectors, dealers and sellers....pretty basic mission,
> Authenticity .  Nothing wrong with that!
> And any kind of outreach by the IMCA very much appears to be a mistake
> in perception.
> The IMCA is not responsible for anything it's members do and probably
> should not take any credit for
> anything their individual members do as it implies responsibility.
>
> Like Gary said, it's up to the individual.
> I don't think anyone is not supportive of outreach, it's just not the
> function of the IMCA.
>
> REF: http://imca.cc/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1&Itemid=14
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> On 11/22/2014 8:39 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list wrote:
>> Ray Watts said :
>>
>> "I have been told in the past that out reach is over reach for the
>> I.M.C.A."
>>
>> Whoever said that, has no business being in the IMCA or any other
>> group that claims to be supportive of education and outreach.  Walk
>> the walk or get the hell out.
>>
>> My two cents.
>>
>> Also, agree 110% with what Gary said.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> MikeG
>>
>
>
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> Jim Wooddell
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> http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/
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