[meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Martin Goff's Out Reach

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 12:02:26 -0500
Message-ID: <CAKBPJW9bPeYNkxqkjgkXkO7wnKswTCMZW081VdZx_NdydbqJZg_at_mail.gmail.com>

Please do not take this as a knock at the IMCA, because it is not
intended that way, and I certainly do NOT want to experience the old
"shoot the messenger" syndrome again.

I accidentally left out the word "NOT" in the above sentence! LOL.



On 11/23/14, Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Jim and List,
>
> Please do not take this as a knock at the IMCA, because it is not
> intended that way, and I certainly do want to experience the old
> "shoot the messenger" syndrome again.
>
> How exactly does anyone "guarantee authenticity" in regards to meteorites?
>
> Let's look at a typical example that happens on a daily basis in the
> meteorite community :
>
> If I am offered a specimen of Battle Mountain by a dealer. How do I
> really know that it is Battle Mountain and not one of hundreds of NWA
> L6 look-a-likes? Regardless of whether or not the seller is an IMCA
> member, how can one guarantee authenticity of any specimen, unless
> that particular specimen has been examined and analyzed by a reputable
> scientist?
>
> I do not know of any dealers who have every batch of material they
> acquire tested at a lab. They use a combination of faith in their
> sources and hand-examination to determine if the material should be
> offered. Sure, new unclassified material is analyzed to have it
> classified and officially approved by Met Soc. But what about NWA
> 869? How many dealers have their NWA 869 analyzed prior to offering
> it? If it is untested, then how can one make any guarantees?
>
> Best regards,
>
> MikeG
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> On 11/23/14, Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>> Hello all!
>>
>> The IMCA has but one purpose, does it not? How can you possibly argue
>> that???
>> It's for collectors, dealers and sellers....pretty basic mission,
>> Authenticity . Nothing wrong with that!
>> And any kind of outreach by the IMCA very much appears to be a mistake
>> in perception.
>> The IMCA is not responsible for anything it's members do and probably
>> should not take any credit for
>> anything their individual members do as it implies responsibility.
>>
>> Like Gary said, it's up to the individual.
>> I don't think anyone is not supportive of outreach, it's just not the
>> function of the IMCA.
>>
>> REF: http://imca.cc/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1&Itemid=14
>>
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> On 11/22/2014 8:39 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list
>> wrote:
>>> Ray Watts said :
>>>
>>> "I have been told in the past that out reach is over reach for the
>>> I.M.C.A."
>>>
>>> Whoever said that, has no business being in the IMCA or any other
>>> group that claims to be supportive of education and outreach. Walk
>>> the walk or get the hell out.
>>>
>>> My two cents.
>>>
>>> Also, agree 110% with what Gary said.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> MikeG
>>>
>>
>>
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>> jim.wooddell at suddenlink.net
>> http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/
>>
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