[meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)
From: Mike Bandli <fuzzfoot_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 15:28:07 -0800 Message-ID: <001b01cde940$d2a35270$77e9f750$_at_comcast.net> Many thanks for the quick translation, Zelimir! One other tidbit that might help with searches. The artist's full name is Louis Poyet (1846-1913). He was a remarkable French artist who specialized in engravings. It looks like he had many engravings published in numerous 19th c. French magazines, mostly "La Nature". ---------------------------------------------- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 ----------------------------------------------- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Universit? de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 3:05 PM To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall) Hi Mike, List, Here is a rapid translation of the essentials of the St Caprais fall report: ---------- "On Sunday January 28, 1883 at 2:45 (p.m.) the whole population of St Caprais, Gironde Department (ZG Note: This is the Bordeaux area, thus near parallel 40? North) was frightened by a series of 5 violent shots ("bangs") comparable to cannon shots, which were followed a noise (rumbling ?) resembling a shooting. People who stood outside their houses noticed a black cloud towards the direction where the noise came from: the black cloud was like an explosion smoke, very different from the ordinary clouds covering (that day) the whole skies. 2 farmers (Perrotin father & son) noticed an ignited object falling in the South-East direction, so close from where they stood so that they could notice the exact place where the object hit the ground. Nobody considered seeking the aerolite the same day. But the next day, a Mr. Elliot, having consulted the witnesses, found at that exact place a dense stone weighing 282.5 grams, burried 0.1 meter deep, the hole dimensions on the surface being 0.06 x 0.04 m. .... ....The number of shots heard at St Caprais and in the neighboring villages could assume the presence of other fragments; but the latter, if ever existed, were never collected (ZG note: it is not said that they were never FOUND...) ............. ------------------------- The rest of the text deals with some aerolite characteristics, probably not worth further translation. This is thus a rapid translation of the major events of interest for the issue, of concern. I believe Bernd, who is sure as fluent in French as myself, would agree. Apparently this does not trow more light to the mystery as it was obviously the winter time and even around Bordeaux, there should not be any wheat (or alike) in the fields.... Bernd is right to point out that this painting can be "a view of an artist", possibly painted some time after the event (perhaps in Summer time ?) More ideas ? Zelimir -- Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Universit? de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. LPI-GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Mike Bandli <fuzzfoot at comcast.nele t> a ?crit?: > > Excellent observation, Bernd! Indeed, the grass is too high for January! The > mystery continues. > > Perhaps Zelimir can tell us if there is anything in Lespiault and > Forquignon's report that corroborates any of the features of Poyet's > illustration. Here is a link to the original report (in French): > > http://visualiseur.bnf.fr/CadresFenetre?O=NUMM-3053&I=1022&M=tdm > > I love these kinds of meteorite mysteries. Let's solve it! I'll keep > looking... > > Mike Bandli > > ---------------------------------------------- > Mike Bandli > Historic Meteorites > www.HistoricMeteorites.com > and join us on Facebook: > www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 > IMCA #5765 > ----------------------------------------------- > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or > copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have > received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If > you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, > copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of > this information is strictly prohibited. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com > [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bernd V. > Pauli > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 1:26 PM > To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall) > > Hello List, > > I wrote: > > "St. Caprais-de-Quinsac...Gironde (France) Fell 1883, Jan 28, 14:45 hrs" > > Sounds good, looks good, ... but: > > Have a close look at the date of the fall: Jan 28 !!! > > Now, when you compare this with Mike B.'s remarks: > > "One will note that there are many farmers about and the horse is saddled > with the hay carriage." > > The only conclusion we can thus draw is that the scene depicts an > (imaginary?) event in late summer during the harvest season, probably > August. > > Another possibility might be that Poyet so-to-speak "merged" > two incidents: the fall of the St. Caprais-de-Quinsac meteorite and the > harvest scene. > > A case of ... artistic license? > > Bernd > > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-listReceived on Wed 02 Jan 2013 06:28:07 PM PST |
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