[meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)

From: bill kies <parkforestmet_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 22:46:12 -0600
Message-ID: <BAY173-W45C2B6A82AE9F659135F88A2210_at_phx.gbl>

His son was a photographer. Here's an interesting piece.

http://131.253.14.66/proxy.ashx?h=I16l_o4Ri25lLYlb-Q009NPpP3R-7NiB&a=http%3A%2F%2Fmemoirephotographiquechampenoise.org%2Ffondspoyet.article.sauveta.htm

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> From: fuzzfoot at comcast.net
> To: zelimir.gabelica at uha.fr; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 15:28:07 -0800
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)
>
> Many thanks for the quick translation, Zelimir!
>
> One other tidbit that might help with searches. The artist's full name is
> Louis Poyet (1846-1913). He was a remarkable French artist who specialized
> in engravings. It looks like he had many engravings published in numerous
> 19th c. French magazines, mostly "La Nature".
>
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> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Prof.
> Zelimir Gabelica Universit? de Haute Alsace ENSCMu,
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 3:05 PM
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> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)
>
> Hi Mike, List,
>
> Here is a rapid translation of the essentials of the St Caprais fall report:
>
> ----------
> "On Sunday January 28, 1883 at 2:45 (p.m.) the whole population of St
> Caprais, Gironde Department (ZG Note: This is the Bordeaux area, thus near
> parallel 40? North) was frightened by a series of 5 violent shots
> ("bangs") comparable to cannon shots, which were followed a noise (rumbling
> ?) resembling a shooting.
>
> People who stood outside their houses noticed a black cloud towards the
> direction where the noise came from: the black cloud was like an explosion
> smoke, very different from the ordinary clouds covering (that day) the whole
> skies.
>
> 2 farmers (Perrotin father & son) noticed an ignited object falling in the
> South-East direction, so close from where they stood so that they could
> notice the exact place where the object hit the ground.
>
> Nobody considered seeking the aerolite the same day. But the next day, a Mr.
> Elliot, having consulted the witnesses, found at that exact place a dense
> stone weighing 282.5 grams, burried 0.1 meter deep, the hole dimensions on
> the surface being 0.06 x 0.04 m. ....
>
> ....The number of shots heard at St Caprais and in the neighboring villages
> could assume the presence of other fragments; but the latter, if ever
> existed, were never collected (ZG note: it is not said that they were never
> FOUND...) .............
> -------------------------
>
> The rest of the text deals with some aerolite characteristics, probably not
> worth further translation.
>
> This is thus a rapid translation of the major events of interest for the
> issue, of concern. I believe Bernd, who is sure as fluent in French as
> myself, would agree.
>
> Apparently this does not trow more light to the mystery as it was obviously
> the winter time and even around Bordeaux, there should not be any wheat (or
> alike) in the fields....
>
> Bernd is right to point out that this painting can be "a view of an artist",
> possibly painted some time after the event (perhaps in Summer time ?)
>
> More ideas ?
>
> Zelimir
> --
> Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
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>
> Mike Bandli <fuzzfoot at comcast.nele t> a ?crit :
>
> >
> > Excellent observation, Bernd! Indeed, the grass is too high for January!
> The
> > mystery continues.
> >
> > Perhaps Zelimir can tell us if there is anything in Lespiault and
> > Forquignon's report that corroborates any of the features of Poyet's
> > illustration. Here is a link to the original report (in French):
> >
> > http://visualiseur.bnf.fr/CadresFenetre?O=NUMM-3053&I=1022&M=tdm
> >
> > I love these kinds of meteorite mysteries. Let's solve it! I'll keep
> > looking...
> >
> > Mike Bandli
> >
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> > [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bernd V.
> > Pauli
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 1:26 PM
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> > Subject: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)
> >
> > Hello List,
> >
> > I wrote:
> >
> > "St. Caprais-de-Quinsac...Gironde (France) Fell 1883, Jan 28, 14:45 hrs"
> >
> > Sounds good, looks good, ... but:
> >
> > Have a close look at the date of the fall: Jan 28 !!!
> >
> > Now, when you compare this with Mike B.'s remarks:
> >
> > "One will note that there are many farmers about and the horse is saddled
> > with the hay carriage."
> >
> > The only conclusion we can thus draw is that the scene depicts an
> > (imaginary?) event in late summer during the harvest season, probably
> > August.
> >
> > Another possibility might be that Poyet so-to-speak "merged"
> > two incidents: the fall of the St. Caprais-de-Quinsac meteorite and the
> > harvest scene.
> >
> > A case of ... artistic license?
> >
> > Bernd
> >
> >
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