[meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)

From: bill kies <parkforestmet_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 22:48:57 -0600
Message-ID: <BAY173-W226790593AD34878BCFB1EA2210_at_phx.gbl>

Maybe this one will work.

http://memoirephotographiquechampenoise.org/fondspoyet.article.sauveta.htm----------------------------------------

> From: parkforestmet at hotmail.com
> To: fuzzfoot at comcast.net
> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 22:46:12 -0600
> CC: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)
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>
> His son was a photographer. Here's an interesting piece.
>
> http://131.253.14.66/proxy.ashx?h=I16l_o4Ri25lLYlb-Q009NPpP3R-7NiB&a=http%3A%2F%2Fmemoirephotographiquechampenoise.org%2Ffondspoyet.article.sauveta.htm
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> > From: fuzzfoot at comcast.net
> > To: zelimir.gabelica at uha.fr; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 15:28:07 -0800
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)
> >
> > Many thanks for the quick translation, Zelimir!
> >
> > One other tidbit that might help with searches. The artist's full name is
> > Louis Poyet (1846-1913). He was a remarkable French artist who specialized
> > in engravings. It looks like he had many engravings published in numerous
> > 19th c. French magazines, mostly "La Nature".
> >
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> > Zelimir Gabelica Universit? de Haute Alsace ENSCMu,
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 3:05 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)
> >
> > Hi Mike, List,
> >
> > Here is a rapid translation of the essentials of the St Caprais fall report:
> >
> > ----------
> > "On Sunday January 28, 1883 at 2:45 (p.m.) the whole population of St
> > Caprais, Gironde Department (ZG Note: This is the Bordeaux area, thus near
> > parallel 40? North) was frightened by a series of 5 violent shots
> > ("bangs") comparable to cannon shots, which were followed a noise (rumbling
> > ?) resembling a shooting.
> >
> > People who stood outside their houses noticed a black cloud towards the
> > direction where the noise came from: the black cloud was like an explosion
> > smoke, very different from the ordinary clouds covering (that day) the whole
> > skies.
> >
> > 2 farmers (Perrotin father & son) noticed an ignited object falling in the
> > South-East direction, so close from where they stood so that they could
> > notice the exact place where the object hit the ground.
> >
> > Nobody considered seeking the aerolite the same day. But the next day, a Mr.
> > Elliot, having consulted the witnesses, found at that exact place a dense
> > stone weighing 282.5 grams, burried 0.1 meter deep, the hole dimensions on
> > the surface being 0.06 x 0.04 m. ....
> >
> > ....The number of shots heard at St Caprais and in the neighboring villages
> > could assume the presence of other fragments; but the latter, if ever
> > existed, were never collected (ZG note: it is not said that they were never
> > FOUND...) .............
> > -------------------------
> >
> > The rest of the text deals with some aerolite characteristics, probably not
> > worth further translation.
> >
> > This is thus a rapid translation of the major events of interest for the
> > issue, of concern. I believe Bernd, who is sure as fluent in French as
> > myself, would agree.
> >
> > Apparently this does not trow more light to the mystery as it was obviously
> > the winter time and even around Bordeaux, there should not be any wheat (or
> > alike) in the fields....
> >
> > Bernd is right to point out that this painting can be "a view of an artist",
> > possibly painted some time after the event (perhaps in Summer time ?)
> >
> > More ideas ?
> >
> > Zelimir
> > --
> > Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
> > Universit? de Haute Alsace
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> > F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France
> > Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94
> >
> >
> > Mike Bandli <fuzzfoot at comcast.nele t> a ?crit :
> >
> > >
> > > Excellent observation, Bernd! Indeed, the grass is too high for January!
> > The
> > > mystery continues.
> > >
> > > Perhaps Zelimir can tell us if there is anything in Lespiault and
> > > Forquignon's report that corroborates any of the features of Poyet's
> > > illustration. Here is a link to the original report (in French):
> > >
> > > http://visualiseur.bnf.fr/CadresFenetre?O=NUMM-3053&I=1022&M=tdm
> > >
> > > I love these kinds of meteorite mysteries. Let's solve it! I'll keep
> > > looking...
> > >
> > > Mike Bandli
> > >
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> > > [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bernd V.
> > > Pauli
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 1:26 PM
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> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)
> > >
> > > Hello List,
> > >
> > > I wrote:
> > >
> > > "St. Caprais-de-Quinsac...Gironde (France) Fell 1883, Jan 28, 14:45 hrs"
> > >
> > > Sounds good, looks good, ... but:
> > >
> > > Have a close look at the date of the fall: Jan 28 !!!
> > >
> > > Now, when you compare this with Mike B.'s remarks:
> > >
> > > "One will note that there are many farmers about and the horse is saddled
> > > with the hay carriage."
> > >
> > > The only conclusion we can thus draw is that the scene depicts an
> > > (imaginary?) event in late summer during the harvest season, probably
> > > August.
> > >
> > > Another possibility might be that Poyet so-to-speak "merged"
> > > two incidents: the fall of the St. Caprais-de-Quinsac meteorite and the
> > > harvest scene.
> > >
> > > A case of ... artistic license?
> > >
> > > Bernd
> > >
> > >
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