[meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)

From: Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, <zelimir.gabelica_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 10:00:49 +0100
Message-ID: <20130103100049.cye6g2h7vncwosok_at_w3mail.univ-mulhouse.fr>

Hi Bill,

You are giving here a wrong reference.

We were speaking about LOUIS Poyet (1846-1913) the famous specialist
in engravings who lived in Paris.

See here:

http://www.gonefishing.fr/article-le-graveur-du-dimanche-louis-poyet-48802161.html

You refer to JEAN Poyet, a protographer who left thousands of true
photographs taken between 1902 and 1956 in the Epernay area, whare he
lived. Click on the first link (video) on your own link.

Unless there is another Poyet in concern ?

I also went through quite a number of Louis Poyet's engravings (Google
etc) but could not spot anywhere a painting/engraving showing a
meteorite fall in wheat field...

The hunt continues....

Zelimir
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Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
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bill kies <parkforestmet at hotmail.com> a ?crit?:
>
> Maybe this one will work.
>
> http://memoirephotographiquechampenoise.org/fondspoyet.article.sauveta.htm----------------------------------------
>
>> From: parkforestmet at hotmail.com
>> To: fuzzfoot at comcast.net
>> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 22:46:12 -0600
>> CC: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)
>>
>>
>> His son was a photographer. Here's an interesting piece.
>>
>> http://131.253.14.66/proxy.ashx?h=I16l_o4Ri25lLYlb-Q009NPpP3R-7NiB&a=http%3A%2F%2Fmemoirephotographiquechampenoise.org%2Ffondspoyet.article.sauveta.htm
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>> > From: fuzzfoot at comcast.net
>> > To: zelimir.gabelica at uha.fr; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> > Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 15:28:07 -0800
>> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)
>> >
>> > Many thanks for the quick translation, Zelimir!
>> >
>> > One other tidbit that might help with searches. The artist's full name is
>> > Louis Poyet (1846-1913). He was a remarkable French artist who specialized
>> > in engravings. It looks like he had many engravings published in numerous
>> > 19th c. French magazines, mostly "La Nature".
>> >
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>> > Zelimir Gabelica Universit? de Haute Alsace ENSCMu,
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 3:05 PM
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>> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)
>> >
>> > Hi Mike, List,
>> >
>> > Here is a rapid translation of the essentials of the St Caprais  
>> fall report:
>> >
>> > ----------
>> > "On Sunday January 28, 1883 at 2:45 (p.m.) the whole population of St
>> > Caprais, Gironde Department (ZG Note: This is the Bordeaux area, thus near
>> > parallel 40? North) was frightened by a series of 5 violent shots
>> > ("bangs") comparable to cannon shots, which were followed a noise  
>> (rumbling
>> > ?) resembling a shooting.
>> >
>> > People who stood outside their houses noticed a black cloud towards the
>> > direction where the noise came from: the black cloud was like an explosion
>> > smoke, very different from the ordinary clouds covering (that  
>> day) the whole
>> > skies.
>> >
>> > 2 farmers (Perrotin father & son) noticed an ignited object falling in the
>> > South-East direction, so close from where they stood so that they could
>> > notice the exact place where the object hit the ground.
>> >
>> > Nobody considered seeking the aerolite the same day. But the next  
>> day, a Mr.
>> > Elliot, having consulted the witnesses, found at that exact place a dense
>> > stone weighing 282.5 grams, burried 0.1 meter deep, the hole dimensions on
>> > the surface being 0.06 x 0.04 m. ....
>> >
>> > ....The number of shots heard at St Caprais and in the  
>> neighboring villages
>> > could assume the presence of other fragments; but the latter, if ever
>> > existed, were never collected (ZG note: it is not said that they  
>> were never
>> > FOUND...) .............
>> > -------------------------
>> >
>> > The rest of the text deals with some aerolite characteristics,  
>> probably not
>> > worth further translation.
>> >
>> > This is thus a rapid translation of the major events of interest for the
>> > issue, of concern. I believe Bernd, who is sure as fluent in French as
>> > myself, would agree.
>> >
>> > Apparently this does not trow more light to the mystery as it was  
>> obviously
>> > the winter time and even around Bordeaux, there should not be any  
>> wheat (or
>> > alike) in the fields....
>> >
>> > Bernd is right to point out that this painting can be "a view of  
>> an artist",
>> > possibly painted some time after the event (perhaps in Summer time ?)
>> >
>> > More ideas ?
>> >
>> > Zelimir
>> > --
>> > Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
>> > Universit? de Haute Alsace
>> > ENSCMu, Lab. LPI-GSEC,
>> > 3, Rue A. Werner,
>> > F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France
>> > Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94
>> >
>> >
>> > Mike Bandli <fuzzfoot at comcast.nele t> a ?crit :
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Excellent observation, Bernd! Indeed, the grass is too high for January!
>> > The
>> > > mystery continues.
>> > >
>> > > Perhaps Zelimir can tell us if there is anything in Lespiault and
>> > > Forquignon's report that corroborates any of the features of Poyet's
>> > > illustration. Here is a link to the original report (in French):
>> > >
>> > > http://visualiseur.bnf.fr/CadresFenetre?O=NUMM-3053&I=1022&M=tdm
>> > >
>> > > I love these kinds of meteorite mysteries. Let's solve it! I'll keep
>> > > looking...
>> > >
>> > > Mike Bandli
>> > >
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>> > > [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf  
>> Of Bernd V.
>> > > Pauli
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 1:26 PM
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>> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)
>> > >
>> > > Hello List,
>> > >
>> > > I wrote:
>> > >
>> > > "St. Caprais-de-Quinsac...Gironde (France) Fell 1883, Jan 28, 14:45 hrs"
>> > >
>> > > Sounds good, looks good, ... but:
>> > >
>> > > Have a close look at the date of the fall: Jan 28 !!!
>> > >
>> > > Now, when you compare this with Mike B.'s remarks:
>> > >
>> > > "One will note that there are many farmers about and the horse  
>> is saddled
>> > > with the hay carriage."
>> > >
>> > > The only conclusion we can thus draw is that the scene depicts an
>> > > (imaginary?) event in late summer during the harvest season, probably
>> > > August.
>> > >
>> > > Another possibility might be that Poyet so-to-speak "merged"
>> > > two incidents: the fall of the St. Caprais-de-Quinsac meteorite and the
>> > > harvest scene.
>> > >
>> > > A case of ... artistic license?
>> > >
>> > > Bernd
>> > >
>> > >
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