[meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)

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Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
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Mike Bandli <fuzzfoot at comcast.net> a ?crit?:
> Many thanks for the quick translation, Zelimir!
>
> One other tidbit that might help with searches. The artist's full name is
> Louis Poyet (1846-1913). He was a remarkable French artist who specialized
> in engravings. It looks like he had many engravings published in numerous
> 19th c. French magazines, mostly "La Nature".
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> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Prof.
> Zelimir Gabelica Universit? de Haute Alsace ENSCMu,
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 3:05 PM
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> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)
>
> Hi Mike, List,
>
> Here is a rapid translation of the essentials of the St Caprais fall report:
>
> ----------
> "On Sunday January 28, 1883 at 2:45 (p.m.) the whole population of St
> Caprais, Gironde Department (ZG Note: This is the Bordeaux area, thus near
> parallel 40? North) was frightened by a series of 5 violent shots
> ("bangs") comparable to cannon shots, which were followed a noise (rumbling
> ?) resembling a shooting.
>
> People who stood outside their houses noticed a black cloud towards the
> direction where the noise came from: the black cloud was like an explosion
> smoke, very different from the ordinary clouds covering (that day) the whole
> skies.
>
> 2 farmers (Perrotin father & son) noticed an ignited object falling in the
> South-East direction, so close from where they stood so that they could
> notice the exact place where the object hit the ground.
>
> Nobody considered seeking the aerolite the same day. But the next day, a Mr.
> Elliot, having consulted the witnesses, found at that exact place a dense
> stone weighing 282.5 grams, burried 0.1 meter deep, the hole dimensions on
> the surface being 0.06 x 0.04 m. ....
>
> ....The number of shots heard at St Caprais and in the neighboring villages
> could assume the presence of other fragments; but the latter, if ever
> existed, were never collected (ZG note: it is not said that they were never
> FOUND...) .............
> -------------------------
>
> The rest of the text deals with some aerolite characteristics, probably not
> worth further translation.
>
> This is thus a rapid translation of the major events of interest for the
> issue, of concern. I believe Bernd, who is sure as fluent in French as
> myself, would agree.
>
> Apparently this does not trow more light to the mystery as it was obviously
> the winter time and even around Bordeaux, there should not be any wheat (or
> alike) in the fields....
>
> Bernd is right to point out that this painting can be "a view of an artist",
> possibly painted some time after the event (perhaps in Summer time  ?)
>
> More ideas ?
>
> Zelimir
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> Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
> Universit? de Haute Alsace
> ENSCMu, Lab. LPI-GSEC,
> 3, Rue A. Werner,
> F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France
> Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94
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> Mike Bandli <fuzzfoot at comcast.nele t> a ?crit?:
>
>>
>> Excellent observation, Bernd! Indeed, the grass is too high for January!
> The
>> mystery continues.
>>
>> Perhaps Zelimir can tell us if there is anything in Lespiault and
>> Forquignon's report that corroborates any of the features of Poyet's
>> illustration. Here is a link to the original report (in French):
>>
>> http://visualiseur.bnf.fr/CadresFenetre?O=NUMM-3053&I=1022&M=tdm
>>
>> I love these kinds of meteorite mysteries. Let's solve it! I'll keep
>> looking...
>>
>> Mike Bandli
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>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bernd V.
>> Pauli
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 1:26 PM
>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)
>>
>> Hello List,
>>
>> I wrote:
>>
>> "St. Caprais-de-Quinsac...Gironde (France) Fell 1883, Jan 28, 14:45 hrs"
>>
>> Sounds good, looks good, ... but:
>>
>> Have a close look at the date of the fall: Jan 28 !!!
>>
>> Now, when you compare this with Mike B.'s remarks:
>>
>> "One will note that there are many farmers about  and the horse is saddled
>> with the hay carriage."
>>
>> The only conclusion we can thus draw is that the scene depicts an
>> (imaginary?) event in late summer during the harvest season, probably
>> August.
>>
>> Another possibility might be that Poyet so-to-speak "merged"
>> two incidents: the fall of the St. Caprais-de-Quinsac meteorite and the
>> harvest scene.
>>
>> A case of ... artistic license?
>>
>> Bernd
>>
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