[meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)

From: Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, <zelimir.gabelica_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 00:05:21 +0100
Message-ID: <20130103000521.g8lh592wwo008csk_at_w3mail.univ-mulhouse.fr>

Hi Mike, List,

Here is a rapid translation of the essentials of the St Caprais fall report:

----------
"On Sunday January 28, 1883 at 2:45 (p.m.) the whole population of St
Caprais, Gironde Department (ZG Note: This is the Bordeaux area, thus
near parallel 40? North) was frightened by a series of 5 violent shots
("bangs") comparable to cannon shots, which were followed a noise
(rumbling ?) resembling a shooting.

People who stood outside their houses noticed a black cloud towards
the direction where the noise came from: the black cloud was like an
explosion smoke, very different from the ordinary clouds covering
(that day) the whole skies.

2 farmers (Perrotin father & son) noticed an ignited object falling in
the South-East direction, so close from where they stood so that they
could notice the exact place where the object hit the ground.

Nobody considered seeking the aerolite the same day. But the next day,
a Mr. Elliot, having consulted the witnesses, found at that exact
place a dense stone weighing 282.5 grams, burried 0.1 meter deep, the
hole dimensions on the surface being 0.06 x 0.04 m. ....

....The number of shots heard at St Caprais and in the neighboring
villages could assume the presence of other fragments; but the latter,
if ever existed, were never collected (ZG note: it is not said that
they were never FOUND...)
.............
-------------------------

The rest of the text deals with some aerolite characteristics,
probably not worth further translation.

This is thus a rapid translation of the major events of interest for
the issue, of concern. I believe Bernd, who is sure as fluent in
French as myself, would agree.

Apparently this does not trow more light to the mystery as it was
obviously the winter time and even around Bordeaux, there should not
be any wheat (or alike) in the fields....

Bernd is right to point out that this painting can be "a view of an
artist", possibly painted some time after the event (perhaps in Summer
time ?)

More ideas ?

Zelimir

-- 
Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
Universit? de Haute Alsace
ENSCMu, Lab. LPI-GSEC,
3, Rue A. Werner,
F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France
Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94
Mike Bandli <fuzzfoot at comcast.nele t> a ?crit?:
>
> Excellent observation, Bernd! Indeed, the grass is too high for January! The
> mystery continues.
>
> Perhaps Zelimir can tell us if there is anything in Lespiault and
> Forquignon's report that corroborates any of the features of Poyet's
> illustration. Here is a link to the original report (in French):
>
> http://visualiseur.bnf.fr/CadresFenetre?O=NUMM-3053&I=1022&M=tdm
>
> I love these kinds of meteorite mysteries. Let's solve it! I'll keep
> looking...
>
> Mike Bandli
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> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bernd V.
> Pauli
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 1:26 PM
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)
>
> Hello List,
>
> I wrote:
>
> "St. Caprais-de-Quinsac...Gironde (France) Fell 1883, Jan 28, 14:45 hrs"
>
> Sounds good, looks good, ... but:
>
> Have a close look at the date of the fall: Jan 28 !!!
>
> Now, when you compare this with Mike B.'s remarks:
>
> "One will note that there are many farmers about  and the horse is saddled
> with the hay carriage."
>
> The only conclusion we can thus draw is that the scene depicts an
> (imaginary?) event in late summer during the harvest season, probably
> August.
>
> Another possibility might be that Poyet so-to-speak "merged"
> two incidents: the fall of the St. Caprais-de-Quinsac meteorite and the
> harvest scene.
>
> A case of ... artistic license?
>
> Bernd
>
>
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