[meteorite-list] morrocan and americain influence on pairing

From: Greg Hupe <gmhupe_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:49:01 -0000
Message-ID: <01eb01c85f9c$132c0cd0$0200a8c0_at_Gregor>

Hello Habibi,

You asked why I purchased some of the Martian material from you in
Ensisheim. Simple, I wanted some for my collection and to offer some to
others. I will have an NWA number for all of my pieces soon and then I will
offer some.

As far as the Moroccan influence in pairing issues, if you waited until you
received an NWA number for your batch of Martian material than a dozen
people would not have to get a dozen different NWA numbers. You have the
chance to do things right as far as this goes so why create such a problem.
Adam offered his material to a world market but all his material has one NWA
number, not a dozen like in the Moroccan marketing plan. There is a big
difference.

I am not blaming you or trying to start an argument, I am simply trying to
point out to you and other Moroccans what should be done since Moroccans are
going after the collector market. This brings up another point, if the
Moroccans want to keep their long-term largest wholesale customers, they
should not play both sides of the fence by selling to dealers and then
turning right around and selling directly to dealer's same customers. You
will lose big time buyers with this kind of behavior. Again, not picking on
you directly, just pointing out the obvious.

Best regards,
Greg

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----- Original Message -----
From: "habibi abdelaziz" <azizhabibi at yahoo.com>
To: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Cc: <gmhupe at htn.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:25 PM
Subject: morrocan and americain influence on pairing


> hello list memeber and greg.
> concerning the problem of pairing,
> 1=it's not a morrocan problem , it's a world problem.
>
> 2= see here your brother adam hupe is sellling this
> martian you are talking about without nwa number too,
> he have submited a type sample excelent ,but he has
> not an nwa number so why is he selling without nwa
> number.no offense greg this is just to show you that
> also americain dealer can do the same.
> 3= you bought from me 10.88 gr from this martian in
> enseshiem, if you thing it's not good behaviourismes
> why you did bought from me than.at the time you didn't
> think to the moral.you did think offer and demande.
> 4= see here an email posted in this list from your
> brother selling this martian without nwa number.
> on the 13/08/2007.
> i know he get an nwa number later , but at the time he
> didn't have it, so why he didn't wait.
> so he did behave like i did .
> 5= with all my respect to the collector and dealers .
> the problem is depending on how fast you can get an
> nwa number,and how fast you can sell.
> there was many nwa dealers and world dealer selling in
> this show without nwa number.
> i think we should stop here more exaplanation are not
> always good.
> this is not a personnal problem but it's a structural
> problem.that concern labs and scientists
> behaviourismes.formel and informel.
> i would like to sell all the time with nwa number but
> it's not always easy , because we are whole sale
> dealers and i sell to many dealer and colletors that
> want to have there name on lunar and martian
> classification , i respect that;
> i do not like to discuss more on the subject.
> because i do not want to answer each email that might
> concern me or concern morroco.
> but i completly agree that each meteorite must be sold
> with an nwa numbers.
> and The more the Moroccans get involved in direct
> sales to collectors , the more the collectors they
> get good deals and cheap deals.
> so the problem is in the near futur many world dealers
> will not be able to make money enough dealing with
> morroco , than morrocan dealers will supply the market
> directly, we can't help it , its the market .
>
> sincerly
> aziz the habibi
>
>
>
> adam hupe wrote the 13/08/2007.
> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
> ORIENTED MARTAIN SHERGOTTITE - 32.3 gram nearly
> completed crusted individual with flow-lines. This is
> part of the recent discovery that has been on the
> market lately. Unlike most dealers, this piece has
> been confirmed along with 34 other very small
> individuals in my collection by the University of
> Washington, a type specimen has been deposited and a
> unique number will be assigned when all of the
> scientists return from Tucson. In the long run,
> official stones are worth far more and it is very
> expensive doing the right thing by donating 20% to
> science. Please keep this in mind when making an
> offer. I have only seen one other oriented stone
> from this fall ever offered and it is very difficult
> to come up with a complete stone not a fragment. I
> will accept the first offer over $400.00 a gram!
> http://themeteoritesite.com/Martian-a.jpg
> http://themeteoritesite.com/Martian-b.jpg
>
> Thank you for looking.
>
>
> habibi aziz
> box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco
> phone. 21235576145
> fax.21235576170
>
>
>
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