[meteorite-list] IMCA not INRMCA

From: Rob Wesel <*Nakhladog_at_meteoritecentral.com*> Date: Thu Apr 22 09:52:10 2004 Message-ID: <006c01c240a6$613a3a70$4e9fe70c_at_GOLIATH> · Nakhladog_at_meteoritecentral.com

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Rob Wesel
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We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
Willy Wonka, 1971
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tracy Latimer" <tracyl_at_lib.state.hi.us>
To: "Rosemary Hackney" <ltcrose_at_bellsouth.net>
Cc: <Nakhladog_at_attbi.com>; <meteorites@space.com>; <magellon@earthlink.net>;
<Meteorite-List_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not INRMCA
> Uh... what race are meteorites?  Classification, yes; race, no.
>
> I thought we had given up on this subject a while back, unless it's
> just the weird time-delay-post thingie.  Let's leave the flame war and go
> back to something more fun: rocks from space!
>
> Tracy Latimer
>
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Rosemary Hackney wrote:
>
> > Well I have been out of circulation for about 2 weeks or so give or
take.. and I have no idea what is going on. But Rhett I hope you are not
going to quit.  What is International Non Racist meteor whatzit?  And
anyway... I think peeps are confusing race with ethnicity.  when you get
down to it.. there are 3 colors of peeps.... Yellow.. the Orientals that
have a mixture of melanin and carotene pigmentation.
> > White ( albino ) no pigmentation  and Black.. differing degrees of
melanin  content...In this group most of us fall
> > Caucasians.. Arabic..Blacks.. Indian ( native Americans)Hispanics, etc.
> >
> > Just a thought.
> >
> > Rosie
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: meteorites_at_space.com
> >   To: Nakhladog_at_attbi.com
> >   Cc: magellon_at_earthlink.net ; Meteorite-List@meteoritecentral.com
> >   Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 12:50 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not INRMCA
> >
> >
> >   Ditto, Rob.. Steve Schoner #4470 On Thu, 25 July 2002, "Rob Wesel"
wrote:
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
> >   I am afraid I am going to have to chime in with Ken and others here.
> >
> >   The International Non-Racist Meteorite Collectors Association needs to
be at a separate URL, it really has nothing to do with the foundation of
this organization. Just because the word international is included doesn't
mean we all have to get along. I love Matteo, but his posts bug me, same
with Arnold, and now Rhett.
> >
> >   Lists have rules, that's fine because they are usually owned by one
person who calls the House Rules. Mr. Jones can write whatever rules he
wants, it's his deal. The IMCA is our deal. It was a bigger deal than
joining a chat room in that we all joined en masse upon review and after
team construction/approval of it's policies.
> >
> >   Now I see the emergence of a single moderator adding, as he sees fit,
any policy he wants without consent of the members of the organization. If
this was a decision of the board then I stand corrected, and still protest
the decision.
> >
> >   The truth, meteorite distribution is a predominately testosterone
driven ego challenge, dealers don't always get along. Our list is never the
right place for this but it usually goes away. Very few ever get kicked off
or even put on probation, and here Arnold is singled out even after his post
was prematurely deleted.
> >
> >   As much as I dread the daily ads, I think Arnold should be left to do
as he does. Remember how pissed we got at Mohammad, Steve Arnold From
Chicago is mild by comparison.
> >
> >   Leave the IMCA to meteorites, not politics and remember that there is
a board to decide such matters. Yes, the IMCA list is not a place for flame
wars, or sales pitches, that's clear, but Jesus Rhett...do you read every
post before sending it along or were you singling out Arnold well before
that to have blasted his posts before they could ever be seen?
> >
> >   Matteo, sorry you were offended, but deal with it. Rhett, take it down
a notch. Steve, just....oh...do what you have to do. The ink has worn off my
delete key.
> >
> >   We're eight months in on the IMCA and it seems to be working, Rhett's
contribution is appreciated, lets not revert back to bickering, martyrdom
and chaos but instead keep it simple, protect buyers when possible and
inform the public as we have been doing.
> >
> >
> >   --
> >   Rob Wesel # 9275
> >   ------------------
> >   We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
> >   Willy Wonka, 1971
> >
> >
> >
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     From: magellon
> >     To: Meteorite-List_at_meteoritecentral.com
> >     Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 5:05 PM
> >     Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] THANKS
> >
> >
> >     Rhett,
> >     I am even more confused? Steve said "pisano" in a private e-mail
that Matteo made public...
> >     Then Steve admits his mistake to you privately,  and you then teach
him a lesson by  putting  him on
> >     "probation"? Does he still receive posts from the IMCA group site?
Or did you stop those?
> >     If he admitted he was mad and wrong, why punish him?
> >     He's not racist - He was just being mad and wrong.
> >     Rhett, I may not know the whole story but I know this was between
two people.
> >     Why are you bringing the IMCA into this?
> >     To establish "peace" is NOT a good reason.
> >     The IMCA is for the authenticity of meteorites "period".
> >     Are things more peaceful now?
> >     You know as well as anyone  that people get mad and say things they
should not.
> >     First, it is up to the two individuals to try to straighten things
out on their own.
> >     It saddens me that you say you would do it again.
> >     Rhett, this appears not be a matter of racism but more an excuse
> >     to push someone around  you admittedly don't like.
> >     No? Just substitute any other big dealer in Steve's place.
> >     If Mike Farmer (not picking on you Mike :>) had said this to Matteo,
> >      would you have reacted the same way?
> >     If you answer "yes," then why haven't you in the past?
> >
> >     You can not force people to be nice but they can learn from your
good example.
> >     You have kindly and privately reproved me when I broke IMCA rules.
> >     So, I know you can create a harmonious environment when you try
without changing the path of IMCA.
> >
> >     I could not understand from your comment if the board had any say so
in the new change to IMCA or not?
> >     It sounded as if you did it on your own.
> >     Does the board no longer make these type of policy changing
decisions?
> >
> >     Please don't start talking about quitting like you did before.
> >     We all appreciate your past achievements.
> >     But, If you are serious (which I doubt),  I will be glad accept the
position. (thank you)
> >     Best case scenario,  I would share it with Jake Delgato or another
member)
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >     Ken Newton
> >        How fights get started
> >     #9632
> >
> >
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