[meteorite-list] IMCA not INRMCA
From: dvail <dvail_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:52:10 2004 Message-ID: <000a01c2409b$46f735b0$0000fea9_at_asgofc.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C24060.9A985DB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rosie, So what you are saying is: Chinks and Japs are yellow because of mixed pigments. Honkies are white cause they don't have any. Spooks are black cause they have too much. This mailing list consists mainly of Honkies, Camel Jockeys / Towel Heads, Spooks and Scalp Chasers. Dan Vail -----Original Message----- From: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Rosemary Hackney Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 12:11 PM To: Nakhladog_at_attbi.com; meteorites@space.com Cc: magellon_at_earthlink.net; Meteorite-List@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not INRMCA Well I have been out of circulation for about 2 weeks or so give or take.. and I have no idea what is going on. But Rhett I hope you are not going to quit. What is International Non Racist meteor whatzit? And anyway... I think peeps are confusing race with ethnicity. when you get down to it.. there are 3 colors of peeps.... Yellow.. the Orientals that have a mixture of melanin and carotene pigmentation. White ( albino ) no pigmentation and Black.. differing degrees of melanin content...In this group most of us fall Caucasians.. Arabic..Blacks.. Indian ( native Americans)Hispanics, etc. Just a thought. Rosie ----- Original Message ----- From: meteorites_at_space.com To: Nakhladog_at_attbi.com Cc: magellon_at_earthlink.net ; Meteorite-List@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not INRMCA Ditto, Rob.. Steve Schoner #4470 On Thu, 25 July 2002, "Rob Wesel" wrote: _____ I am afraid I am going to have to chime in with Ken and others here. The International Non-Racist Meteorite Collectors Association needs to be at a separate URL, it really has nothing to do with the foundation of this organization. Just because the word international is included doesn't mean we all have to get along. I love Matteo, but his posts bug me, same with Arnold, and now Rhett. Lists have rules, that's fine because they are usually owned by one person who calls the House Rules. Mr. Jones can write whatever rules he wants, it's his deal. The IMCA is our deal. It was a bigger deal than joining a chat room in that we all joined en masse upon review and after team construction/approval of it's policies. Now I see the emergence of a single moderator adding, as he sees fit, any policy he wants without consent of the members of the organization. If this was a decision of the board then I stand corrected, and still protest the decision. The truth, meteorite distribution is a predominately testosterone driven ego challenge, dealers don't always get along. Our list is never the right place for this but it usually goes away. Very few ever get kicked off or even put on probation, and here Arnold is singled out even after his post was prematurely deleted. As much as I dread the daily ads, I think Arnold should be left to do as he does. Remember how pissed we got at Mohammad, Steve Arnold From Chicago is mild by comparison. Leave the IMCA to meteorites, not politics and remember that there is a board to decide such matters. Yes, the IMCA list is not a place for flame wars, or sales pitches, that's clear, but Jesus Rhett...do you read every post before sending it along or were you singling out Arnold well before that to have blasted his posts before they could ever be seen? Matteo, sorry you were offended, but deal with it. Rhett, take it down a notch. Steve, just....oh...do what you have to do. The ink has worn off my delete key. We're eight months in on the IMCA and it seems to be working, Rhett's contribution is appreciated, lets not revert back to bickering, martyrdom and chaos but instead keep it simple, protect buyers when possible and inform the public as we have been doing. -- Rob Wesel # 9275 ------------------ We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 ----- Original Message ----- From: magellon <http://mail.space.com/mail/compose?to=magellon_at_earthlink.net> To: Meteorite-List_at_meteoritecentral.com <http://mail.space.com/mail/compose?to=Meteorite-List_at_meteoritecentral.c om> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] THANKS Rhett, I am even more confused? Steve said "pisano" in a private e-mail that Matteo made public... Then Steve admits his mistake to you privately, and you then teach him a lesson by putting him on "probation"? Does he still receive posts from the IMCA group site? Or did you stop those? If he admitted he was mad and wrong, why punish him? He's not racist - He was just being mad and wrong. Rhett, I may not know the whole story but I know this was between two people. Why are you bringing the IMCA into this? To establish "peace" is NOT a good reason. The IMCA is for the authenticity of meteorites "period". Are things more peaceful now? You know as well as anyone that people get mad and say things they should not. First, it is up to the two individuals to try to straighten things out on their own. It saddens me that you say you would do it again. Rhett, this appears not be a matter of racism but more an excuse to push someone around you admittedly don't like. No? Just substitute any other big dealer in Steve's place. If Mike Farmer (not picking on you Mike :>) had said this to Matteo, would you have reacted the same way? If you answer "yes," then why haven't you in the past? You can not force people to be nice but they can learn from your good example. You have kindly and privately reproved me when I broke IMCA rules. So, I know you can create a harmonious environment when you try without changing the path of IMCA. I could not understand from your comment if the board had any say so in the new change to IMCA or not? It sounded as if you did it on your own. Does the board no longer make these type of policy changing decisions? Please don't start talking about quitting like you did before. We all appreciate your past achievements. But, If you are serious (which I doubt), I will be glad accept the position. (thank you) Best case scenario, I would share it with Jake Delgato or another member) Thanks, Ken Newton How <http://www.bay-town.com/members/magellon/toon/nutnbitch.jpg> fights get started #9632 ___________________________________________________________________ Join the Space Program: Get FREE E-mail at http://www.space.com. ______________________________________________ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C24060.9A985DB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2716.2200" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=3D373000718-10082002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>Rosie,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D373000718-10082002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D373000718-10082002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>So=20 what you are saying is: </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D373000718-10082002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D373000718-10082002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>Chinks=20 and Japs are yellow because of mixed pigments. Honkies are white = cause=20 they don't have any. Spooks are black cause they have too = much. This=20 mailing list consists mainly of Honkies, Camel Jockeys / Towel Heads, = Spooks and=20 Scalp Chasers.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D373000718-10082002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D373000718-10082002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>Dan=20 Vail</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr = align=3Dleft><FONT=20 face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20 meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 [mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com] <B>On Behalf Of=20 </B>Rosemary Hackney<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 10, 2002 12:11=20 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Nakhladog_at_attbi.com; = meteorites_at_space.com<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20 magellon_at_earthlink.net; = Meteorite-List_at_meteoritecentral.com<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20 Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not INRMCA<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well I have been out of circulation = for about 2=20 weeks or so give or take.. and I have no idea what is going on. But = Rhett I=20 hope you are not going to quit. What is International Non Racist = meteor=20 whatzit? And anyway... I think peeps are confusing race with=20 ethnicity. when you get down to it.. there are 3 colors of = peeps....=20 Yellow.. the Orientals that have a mixture of melanin and carotene=20 pigmentation. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>White ( albino ) no = pigmentation and=20 Black.. differing degrees of melanin content...In this group = most of us=20 fall </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Caucasians.. Arabic..Blacks.. Indian = ( native=20 Americans)Hispanics, etc.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just a thought.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rosie</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dmeteorites_at_space.com=20 href=3D"mailto:meteorites_at_space.com">meteorites@space.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3DNakhladog_at_attbi.com=20 href=3D"mailto:Nakhladog_at_attbi.com">Nakhladog@attbi.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A = title=3Dmagellon_at_earthlink.net=20 href=3D"mailto:magellon_at_earthlink.net">magellon@earthlink.net</A> ; = <A=20 title=3DMeteorite-List_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:Meteorite-List_at_meteoritecentral.com">Meteorite-List@meteor= itecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 10, = 2002 12:50=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] = IMCA not=20 INRMCA</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Ditto, Rob.. Steve Schoner #4470 On Thu, 25 July = 2002, "Rob=20 Wesel" wrote: <BR> <HR SIZE=3D1> =20 <P> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2716.2200" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV bgColor=3D"#ffffff"> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am afraid I am going to have to = chime in with=20 Ken and others here. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The International Non-Racist = Meteorite=20 Collectors Association needs to be at a separate URL, it really has = nothing=20 to do with the foundation of this organization. Just because the = word=20 <EM>international</EM> is included doesn't mean we all have to get=20 along. I love Matteo, but his posts bug me, same with = Arnold, and=20 now Rhett.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lists have rules, that's fine = because they are=20 usually owned by one person who calls the House Rules. Mr. Jones can = write=20 whatever rules he wants, it's his deal. The IMCA is our deal. It was = a=20 bigger deal than joining a chat room in that we all joined en = masse=20 upon review and after team construction/approval of it's = policies.=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now I see the emergence of a single = moderator=20 adding, as he sees fit, any policy he wants without consent of the = members=20 of the organization. If this was a decision of the board then I = stand=20 corrected, and still protest the decision.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The truth, meteorite distribution = is a=20 predominately testosterone driven ego challenge, dealers don't = always get=20 along. Our list is never the right place for this but it usually = goes away.=20 Very few ever get kicked off or even put on probation, and here = Arnold is=20 singled out even after his post was prematurely deleted. = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As much as I dread the daily ads, I = think=20 Arnold should be left to do as he does. Remember how pissed we got = at=20 Mohammad, Steve Arnold From Chicago is mild by comparison. = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Leave the IMCA to meteorites, not = politics and=20 remember that there is a board to decide such matters. Yes, the IMCA = list is=20 not a place for flame wars, or sales pitches, that's clear, but = Jesus=20 Rhett...do you read every post before sending it along or were you = singling=20 out Arnold well before that to have blasted his posts before they = could ever=20 be seen?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Matteo, sorry you were offended, = but deal with=20 it. Rhett, take it down a notch. Steve, just....oh...do what you = have to do.=20 The ink has worn off my delete key.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We're eight months in on the = IMCA and it=20 seems to be working, Rhett's contribution is appreciated, lets not = revert=20 back to bickering, martyrdom and chaos but instead keep it = simple,=20 protect buyers when possible and inform the public as we have = been=20 doing.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>--<BR>Rob Wesel #=20 9275<BR>------------------<BR>We are the music makers...and we are = the=20 dreamers of the dreams.<BR>Willy Wonka, 1971</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dmagellon_at_earthlink.net=20 = href=3D"http://mail.space.com/mail/compose?to=3Dmagellon_at_earthlink.net">m= agellon</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3DMeteorite-List_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = href=3D"http://mail.space.com/mail/compose?to=3DMeteorite-List_at_meteoritec= entral.com">Meteorite-List_at_meteoritecentral.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 25, = 2002 5:05=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: = [meteorite-list]=20 THANKS</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Rhett, <BR>I am even more confused? Steve said = "pisano" in=20 a private e-mail that Matteo made public... <BR>Then Steve admits = his=20 mistake to you privately, and you then teach him a lesson = by =20 putting him on <BR>"probation"? Does he still receive posts = from the=20 IMCA group site? Or did you stop those? <BR>If he admitted he was = mad and=20 wrong, why punish him? <BR>He's not racist - He was just being mad = and=20 wrong.=20 <P>Rhett, I may not know the whole story but I know this was = between two=20 people. <BR>Why are you bringing the IMCA into this? <BR>To = establish=20 "peace" is NOT a good reason. <BR>The IMCA is for the authenticity = of=20 meteorites "period". <BR>Are things more peaceful now? <BR>You = know as=20 well as anyone that people get mad and say things they = should not.=20 <BR>First, it is up to the two individuals to try to straighten = things out=20 on their own. <BR>It saddens me that you say you would do it = again.=20 <BR>Rhett, this appears not be a matter of racism but more an = excuse=20 <BR>to push someone around you admittedly don't like. = <BR>No? Just=20 substitute any other big dealer in Steve's place. <BR>If Mike = Farmer (not=20 picking on you Mike :>) had said this to Matteo, = <BR> would you=20 have reacted the same way? <BR>If you answer "yes," then why = haven't you=20 in the past?=20 <P>You can not force people to be nice but they can learn from = your good=20 example. <BR>You have kindly and privately reproved me when I = broke IMCA=20 rules. <BR>So, I know you can create a harmonious environment when = you try=20 without changing the path of IMCA.=20 <P>I could not understand from your comment if the board had any = say so in=20 the new change to IMCA or not? <BR>It sounded as if you did it on = your=20 own. <BR>Does the board no longer make these type of policy = changing=20 decisions?=20 <P>Please don't start talking about quitting like you did before. = <BR>We=20 all appreciate your past achievements. <BR>But, <B>If you are = serious</B>=20 (which I doubt), <B>I will be glad accept the position</B>. = (thank=20 you) <BR>Best case scenario, I would share it with Jake = Delgato or=20 another member)=20 <P>Thanks, <BR>Ken Newton <BR> <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.bay-town.com/members/magellon/toon/nutnbitch.jpg">How = fights get started</A> <BR>#9632 </P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> = <P><PRE><PRE>____________________________________________________________= _______ Join the Space Program: Get FREE E-mail at = http://www.space.com.</PRE></PRE>________________________________________= ______=20 Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 = http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list</BLOCKQUOTE></BLO= CKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C24060.9A985DB0--Received on Sat 10 Aug 2002 02:25:17 PM PDT |
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