[meteorite-list] IMCA not INRMCA

From: Tracy Latimer <tracyl_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:52:10 2004
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0208100942060.5308-100000_at_netra.lib.state.hi.us>

Uh... what race are meteorites? Classification, yes; race, no.

I thought we had given up on this subject a while back, unless it's
just the weird time-delay-post thingie. Let's leave the flame war and go
back to something more fun: rocks from space!

Tracy Latimer

On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Rosemary Hackney wrote:

> Well I have been out of circulation for about 2 weeks or so give or take.. and I have no idea what is going on. But Rhett I hope you are not going to quit. What is International Non Racist meteor whatzit? And anyway... I think peeps are confusing race with ethnicity. when you get down to it.. there are 3 colors of peeps.... Yellow.. the Orientals that have a mixture of melanin and carotene pigmentation.
> White ( albino ) no pigmentation and Black.. differing degrees of melanin content...In this group most of us fall
> Caucasians.. Arabic..Blacks.. Indian ( native Americans)Hispanics, etc.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Rosie
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> Ditto, Rob.. Steve Schoner #4470 On Thu, 25 July 2002, "Rob Wesel" wrote:
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> I am afraid I am going to have to chime in with Ken and others here.
>
> The International Non-Racist Meteorite Collectors Association needs to be at a separate URL, it really has nothing to do with the foundation of this organization. Just because the word international is included doesn't mean we all have to get along. I love Matteo, but his posts bug me, same with Arnold, and now Rhett.
>
> Lists have rules, that's fine because they are usually owned by one person who calls the House Rules. Mr. Jones can write whatever rules he wants, it's his deal. The IMCA is our deal. It was a bigger deal than joining a chat room in that we all joined en masse upon review and after team construction/approval of it's policies.
>
> Now I see the emergence of a single moderator adding, as he sees fit, any policy he wants without consent of the members of the organization. If this was a decision of the board then I stand corrected, and still protest the decision.
>
> The truth, meteorite distribution is a predominately testosterone driven ego challenge, dealers don't always get along. Our list is never the right place for this but it usually goes away. Very few ever get kicked off or even put on probation, and here Arnold is singled out even after his post was prematurely deleted.
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> As much as I dread the daily ads, I think Arnold should be left to do as he does. Remember how pissed we got at Mohammad, Steve Arnold From Chicago is mild by comparison.
>
> Leave the IMCA to meteorites, not politics and remember that there is a board to decide such matters. Yes, the IMCA list is not a place for flame wars, or sales pitches, that's clear, but Jesus Rhett...do you read every post before sending it along or were you singling out Arnold well before that to have blasted his posts before they could ever be seen?
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> Matteo, sorry you were offended, but deal with it. Rhett, take it down a notch. Steve, just....oh...do what you have to do. The ink has worn off my delete key.
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> We're eight months in on the IMCA and it seems to be working, Rhett's contribution is appreciated, lets not revert back to bickering, martyrdom and chaos but instead keep it simple, protect buyers when possible and inform the public as we have been doing.
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> Rob Wesel # 9275
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> Rhett,
> I am even more confused? Steve said "pisano" in a private e-mail that Matteo made public...
> Then Steve admits his mistake to you privately, and you then teach him a lesson by putting him on
> "probation"? Does he still receive posts from the IMCA group site? Or did you stop those?
> If he admitted he was mad and wrong, why punish him?
> He's not racist - He was just being mad and wrong.
> Rhett, I may not know the whole story but I know this was between two people.
> Why are you bringing the IMCA into this?
> To establish "peace" is NOT a good reason.
> The IMCA is for the authenticity of meteorites "period".
> Are things more peaceful now?
> You know as well as anyone that people get mad and say things they should not.
> First, it is up to the two individuals to try to straighten things out on their own.
> It saddens me that you say you would do it again.
> Rhett, this appears not be a matter of racism but more an excuse
> to push someone around you admittedly don't like.
> No? Just substitute any other big dealer in Steve's place.
> If Mike Farmer (not picking on you Mike :>) had said this to Matteo,
> would you have reacted the same way?
> If you answer "yes," then why haven't you in the past?
>
> You can not force people to be nice but they can learn from your good example.
> You have kindly and privately reproved me when I broke IMCA rules.
> So, I know you can create a harmonious environment when you try without changing the path of IMCA.
>
> I could not understand from your comment if the board had any say so in the new change to IMCA or not?
> It sounded as if you did it on your own.
> Does the board no longer make these type of policy changing decisions?
>
> Please don't start talking about quitting like you did before.
> We all appreciate your past achievements.
> But, If you are serious (which I doubt), I will be glad accept the position. (thank you)
> Best case scenario, I would share it with Jake Delgato or another member)
>
> Thanks,
> Ken Newton
> How fights get started
> #9632
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