[meteorite-list] IMCA not INRMCA

From: James_TOM Knudson <peregrineflier_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:52:10 2004
Message-ID: <F1545AONLfw9ugwdrXo0000242d_at_hotmail.com>

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<P>Hello List, Sorry about this, but, to much science here.&nbsp; When there is to much science you leave God out of everything. Without God there seems to be no morals.&nbsp; I think some of you need to find God and leave your immature racial opinions behind.&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR><BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "dvail" <DVAIL_at_COX.NET>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: "'Rosemary Hackney'" <LTCROSE_at_BELLSOUTH.NET>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;CC: <METEORITE-LIST_at_METEORITECENTRAL.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] IMCA not INRMCA
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 11:25:17 -0700
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Rosie,
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;So what you are saying is:
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Chinks and Japs are yellow because of mixed pigments. Honkies are white
<DIV></DIV>&gt;cause they don't have any. Spooks are black cause they have too much.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;This mailing list consists mainly of Honkies, Camel Jockeys / Towel
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Heads, Spooks and Scalp Chasers.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Dan Vail
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;-----Original Message-----
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com
<DIV></DIV>&gt;[mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Rosemary
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Hackney
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 12:11 PM
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: Nakhladog_at_attbi.com; meteorites@space.com
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Cc: magellon_at_earthlink.net; Meteorite-List@meteoritecentral.com
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not INRMCA
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Well I have been out of circulation for about 2 weeks or so give or
<DIV></DIV>&gt;take.. and I have no idea what is going on. But Rhett I hope you are not
<DIV></DIV>&gt;going to quit. What is International Non Racist meteor whatzit? And
<DIV></DIV>&gt;anyway... I think peeps are confusing race with ethnicity. when you get
<DIV></DIV>&gt;down to it.. there are 3 colors of peeps.... Yellow.. the Orientals that
<DIV></DIV>&gt;have a mixture of melanin and carotene pigmentation.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;White ( albino ) no pigmentation and Black.. differing degrees of
<DIV></DIV>&gt;melanin content...In this group most of us fall
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Caucasians.. Arabic..Blacks.. Indian ( native Americans)Hispanics, etc.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Just a thought.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Rosie
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;----- Original Message -----
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: meteorites_at_space.com
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: Nakhladog_at_attbi.com
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Cc: magellon_at_earthlink.net ; Meteorite-List@meteoritecentral.com
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 12:50 PM
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not INRMCA
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Ditto, Rob.. Steve Schoner #4470 On Thu, 25 July 2002, "Rob Wesel"
<DIV></DIV>&gt;wrote:
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; _____
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;I am afraid I am going to have to chime in with Ken and others here.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;The International Non-Racist Meteorite Collectors Association needs to
<DIV></DIV>&gt;be at a separate URL, it really has nothing to do with the foundation of
<DIV></DIV>&gt;this organization. Just because the word international is included
<DIV></DIV>&gt;doesn't mean we all have to get along. I love Matteo, but his posts bug
<DIV></DIV>&gt;me, same with Arnold, and now Rhett.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Lists have rules, that's fine because they are usually owned by one
<DIV></DIV>&gt;person who calls the House Rules. Mr. Jones can write whatever rules he
<DIV></DIV>&gt;wants, it's his deal. The IMCA is our deal. It was a bigger deal than
<DIV></DIV>&gt;joining a chat room in that we all joined en masse upon review and after
<DIV></DIV>&gt;team construction/approval of it's policies.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Now I see the emergence of a single moderator adding, as he sees fit,
<DIV></DIV>&gt;any policy he wants without consent of the members of the organization.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;If this was a decision of the board then I stand corrected, and still
<DIV></DIV>&gt;protest the decision.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;The truth, meteorite distribution is a predominately testosterone driven
<DIV></DIV>&gt;ego challenge, dealers don't always get along. Our list is never the
<DIV></DIV>&gt;right place for this but it usually goes away. Very few ever get kicked
<DIV></DIV>&gt;off or even put on probation, and here Arnold is singled out even after
<DIV></DIV>&gt;his post was prematurely deleted.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;As much as I dread the daily ads, I think Arnold should be left to do as
<DIV></DIV>&gt;he does. Remember how pissed we got at Mohammad, Steve Arnold From
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Chicago is mild by comparison.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Leave the IMCA to meteorites, not politics and remember that there is a
<DIV></DIV>&gt;board to decide such matters. Yes, the IMCA list is not a place for
<DIV></DIV>&gt;flame wars, or sales pitches, that's clear, but Jesus Rhett...do you
<DIV></DIV>&gt;read every post before sending it along or were you singling out Arnold
<DIV></DIV>&gt;well before that to have blasted his posts before they could ever be
<DIV></DIV>&gt;seen?
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Matteo, sorry you were offended, but deal with it. Rhett, take it down a
<DIV></DIV>&gt;notch. Steve, just....oh...do what you have to do. The ink has worn off
<DIV></DIV>&gt;my delete key.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;We're eight months in on the IMCA and it seems to be working, Rhett's
<DIV></DIV>&gt;contribution is appreciated, lets not revert back to bickering,
<DIV></DIV>&gt;martyrdom and chaos but instead keep it simple, protect buyers when
<DIV></DIV>&gt;possible and inform the public as we have been doing.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;--
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Rob Wesel # 9275
<DIV></DIV>&gt;------------------
<DIV></DIV>&gt;We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Willy Wonka, 1971
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;----- Original Message -----
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: magellon
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: Meteorite-List_at_meteoritecentral.com
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;om&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 5:05 PM
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] THANKS
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Rhett,
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I am even more confused? Steve said "pisano" in a private e-mail that
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Matteo made public...
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Then Steve admits his mistake to you privately, and you then teach him
<DIV></DIV>&gt;a lesson by putting him on
<DIV></DIV>&gt;"probation"? Does he still receive posts from the IMCA group site? Or
<DIV></DIV>&gt;did you stop those?
<DIV></DIV>&gt;If he admitted he was mad and wrong, why punish him?
<DIV></DIV>&gt;He's not racist - He was just being mad and wrong.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Rhett, I may not know the whole story but I know this was between two
<DIV></DIV>&gt;people.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Why are you bringing the IMCA into this?
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To establish "peace" is NOT a good reason.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;The IMCA is for the authenticity of meteorites "period".
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Are things more peaceful now?
<DIV></DIV>&gt;You know as well as anyone that people get mad and say things they
<DIV></DIV>&gt;should not.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;First, it is up to the two individuals to try to straighten things out
<DIV></DIV>&gt;on their own.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;It saddens me that you say you would do it again.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Rhett, this appears not be a matter of racism but more an excuse
<DIV></DIV>&gt;to push someone around you admittedly don't like.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;No? Just substitute any other big dealer in Steve's place.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;If Mike Farmer (not picking on you Mike :&gt;) had said this to Matteo,
<DIV></DIV>&gt; would you have reacted the same way?
<DIV></DIV>&gt;If you answer "yes," then why haven't you in the past?
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;You can not force people to be nice but they can learn from your good
<DIV></DIV>&gt;example.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;You have kindly and privately reproved me when I broke IMCA rules.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;So, I know you can create a harmonious environment when you try without
<DIV></DIV>&gt;changing the path of IMCA.
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;I could not understand from your comment if the board had any say so in
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the new change to IMCA or not?
<DIV></DIV>&gt;It sounded as if you did it on your own.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Does the board no longer make these type of policy changing decisions?
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Please don't start talking about quitting like you did before.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;We all appreciate your past achievements.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;But, If you are serious (which I doubt), I will be glad accept the
<DIV></DIV>&gt;position. (thank you)
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Best case scenario, I would share it with Jake Delgato or another
<DIV></DIV>&gt;member)
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Thanks,
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Ken Newton
<DIV></DIV>&gt; How
<DIV></DIV>&gt;fights get started
<DIV></DIV>&gt;#9632
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