[meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update : 51 new approvals, including many old early-NWA's, rare iron IIF, and more.

From: Anne Black <impactika_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 20:09:35 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <301607737.1133503.1596830975380_at_mail.yahoo.com>

Didn't I see a short response by Carl Agee saying that yes all 3 are indeed the same meteorite?I can't find it now.

Anne BlackIMPACTIKA.comimpactika at aol.com


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From: Mendy Ouzillou via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
To: 'Roberto Vargas' <Rvargas85 at outlook.com>
Cc: 'Meteorite List' <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thu, Aug 6, 2020 1:27 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update : 51 new approvals, including many old early-NWA's, rare iron IIF, and more.

Roberto,

Well ? You are right. Unless you bought material that can be traced back to
any of the mass holders listed in the classification, then those stones are
not ?Erg Chech 002? and have either been visually paired and sold improperly
under that name, visually paired and sold as visually paired, AND/OR are in
process of getting their own numbers paired by classification.

Just because a meteorite can be paired visually does not mean that it should
or can be classified as such. I would recommend reading the guidelines
(https://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/docs/nc-guidelines.pdf) to understand how
names and pairings are determined for falls versus dense collection area
finds. The system is not perfect and for sure needs improvements to reflect
the situation on the ground, but I believe we as a community are better off
recommending changes working with and within the MetSoc. However, doing so
means that we have to address not just our concerns but also the concerns of
the MetSoc and NomCom. In order to find common ground, we as hunters,
collectors, dealers, etc. need to understand their reasons for why the rules
are as they are. Changes forced from the outside are rarely effective.

If you want to have a more in-depth discussion, feel free to contact me off
list.

Mendy

From: Roberto Vargas <Rvargas85 at outlook.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 1:44 PM
To: Gmail <mendy.ouzillou at gmail.com>
Cc: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>; Meteorite List
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update : 51 new approvals,
including many old early-NWA's, rare iron IIF, and more.

Hey Mendy,
Thanks for your response, but if that?s true, Erg Chech 002 should have like
30 different NWA numbers. Same with 869 and Al Haggounia 001 and about a
thousand other NWAs. The Martian is unique looking enough and has a
unique-ish composition, was all found around the same time and submitted
around the same time. It?s all the same material. Just because it was sold
to a handful of dealers shouldn?t mean it?s a handful of different
meteorites (opinion).
~Roberto




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From: Gmail <mailto:mendy.ouzillou at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 9:21:28 PM
To: Roberto Vargas <mailto:Rvargas85 at outlook.com>
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List <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update : 51 new approvals,
including many old early-NWA's, rare iron IIF, and more.
?
Roberto,

That?s the way it?s supposed to be. There is no self pairing with the ?same?
meteorites from dense collection areas.

Regards,
Mendy Ouzillou

On Aug 3, 2020, at 1:15 PM, Roberto Vargas via Meteorite-list
<mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
Interesting how all three Martian Shergottites have poikilitic texture.
Almost like they?re all the same material

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update : 51 new approvals, including
many old early-NWA's, rare iron IIF, and more.
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Hi List,

Lots of new and interesting approvals in the latest Met Bull update.
These include some early NWAs going back to 2002.

Link -
https://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=%2A&sfor=names&ants=&nwas=&f
alls=&valids=&stype=contains&lrec=50&map=ge&browse=&country=All&srt=name&cat
eg=All&mblist=All&rect=&phot=&strewn=&snew=7&pnt=Normal%20table&dr=&page=1

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