[meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update : 51 new approvals, including many old early-NWA's, rare iron IIF, and more.
From: Mendy Ouzillou <mendy.ouzillou_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 10:03:07 -0500 Message-ID: <0d9501d66d95$06e71310$14b53930$_at_gmail.com> Anne, you are correct. Carl said, ?They are all paired with NWA 13250.? However, I was responding to his question just below my response in this thread. Mendy From: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com> On Behalf Of Anne Black via Meteorite-list Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 3:10 PM To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com; Rvargas85 at outlook.com Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update : 51 new approvals, including many old early-NWA's, rare iron IIF, and more. Didn't I see a short response by Carl Agee saying that yes all 3 are indeed the same meteorite? I can't find it now. Anne Black IMPACTIKA.com impactika at aol.com <mailto:impactika at aol.com> -----Original Message----- From: Mendy Ouzillou via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > To: 'Roberto Vargas' <Rvargas85 at outlook.com <mailto:Rvargas85 at outlook.com> > Cc: 'Meteorite List' <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Thu, Aug 6, 2020 1:27 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update : 51 new approvals, including many old early-NWA's, rare iron IIF, and more. Roberto, Well ? You are right. Unless you bought material that can be traced back to any of the mass holders listed in the classification, then those stones are not ?Erg Chech 002? and have either been visually paired and sold improperly under that name, visually paired and sold as visually paired, AND/OR are in process of getting their own numbers paired by classification. Just because a meteorite can be paired visually does not mean that it should or can be classified as such. I would recommend reading the guidelines (https://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/docs/nc-guidelines.pdf) to understand how names and pairings are determined for falls versus dense collection area finds. The system is not perfect and for sure needs improvements to reflect the situation on the ground, but I believe we as a community are better off recommending changes working with and within the MetSoc. However, doing so means that we have to address not just our concerns but also the concerns of the MetSoc and NomCom. In order to find common ground, we as hunters, collectors, dealers, etc. need to understand their reasons for why the rules are as they are. Changes forced from the outside are rarely effective. If you want to have a more in-depth discussion, feel free to contact me off list. Mendy From: Roberto Vargas <Rvargas85 at outlook.com <mailto:Rvargas85 at outlook.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2020 1:44 PM To: Gmail <mendy.ouzillou at gmail.com <mailto:mendy.ouzillou at gmail.com> > Cc: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com <mailto:meteoritemike at gmail.com> >; Meteorite List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update : 51 new approvals, including many old early-NWA's, rare iron IIF, and more. Hey Mendy, Thanks for your response, but if that?s true, Erg Chech 002 should have like 30 different NWA numbers. Same with 869 and Al Haggounia 001 and about a thousand other NWAs. The Martian is unique looking enough and has a unique-ish composition, was all found around the same time and submitted around the same time. It?s all the same material. Just because it was sold to a handful of dealers shouldn?t mean it?s a handful of different meteorites (opinion). ~Roberto Get https://aka.ms/o0ukef ________________________________________ From: Gmail <mailto:mendy.ouzillou at gmail.com <mailto:mendy.ouzillou at gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 9:21:28 PM To: Roberto Vargas <mailto:Rvargas85 at outlook.com <mailto:Rvargas85 at outlook.com> > Cc: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <mailto:meteoritemike at gmail.com <mailto:meteoritemike at gmail.com> >; Meteorite List <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update : 51 new approvals, including many old early-NWA's, rare iron IIF, and more. Roberto, That?s the way it?s supposed to be. There is no self pairing with the ?same? meteorites from dense collection areas. Regards, Mendy Ouzillou On Aug 3, 2020, at 1:15 PM, Roberto Vargas via Meteorite-list <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > wrote: Interesting how all three Martian Shergottites have poikilitic texture. Almost like they?re all the same material Get https://aka.ms/o0ukef ________________________________________ From: Meteorite-list <mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com <mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com> > on behalf of Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 12:15:03 PM To: Meteorite List <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update : 51 new approvals, including many old early-NWA's, rare iron IIF, and more. Hi List, Lots of new and interesting approvals in the latest Met Bull update. These include some early NWAs going back to 2002. 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