[meteorite-list] Brazil National Museum Completely Gutted by Fire

From: Alfredo Petrov <alfredo_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 00:10:44 +0900
Message-ID: <CAHy2-pN1Vjk=BVeFvBD=7KkAmQjJKL3Fmbhap_hqZEuo-A+B9w_at_mail.gmail.com>

Not specifically about meteorites, but rather a mineral collection that was
partially destroyed by fire, creating similar recovery problems, described
in Dr Steven Chamberlain's article in Rocks & Minerals, vol 83 (2008), #2
This has a lot of helpful information that would apply to meteorite
collections too.


On 5 September 2018 at 08:57, michael kelly via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> This is very sad.
>
> It does bring up a question i have thought about and am interested in what
> the list members think/do for fire assurance.
>
> Is there a way to store a collection that would help protect it from
> fire. I am talking along the full spectrum of effects from a small room
> fire indirect heat. to a full structural fire. I just recently started
> collecting and i am working on a type collection of micros so everything i
> own besides two fist size nwa unclassified is sitting in a plastic case,
> very meltable even at low heat exposure. Its currently out for viewing so
> my estimate is i would have plastic indistinguishable blobs even from
> indirect heat. And wouldnt be able to tell things apart once the case
> markings are lost. Is there a better way to mark?
>
> I already owned a safe, and have seen crusing meteorite articles that
> others store in safes, but was always interested in knowing if that was for
> security, to leverage some sealed enviornmental aspect (even the small ones
> come desicated) or for fire risk. Or a combo of all. I know fire ratings
> are a bit hokey on safes. And in fires if a safe is not on the foundation
> level its pretty much doomed. And in most cases is apt to sit in hot
> rubble conditions longer than its rated for. Or under water in a flooded
> rubble filled basement longer than it is flood rated for.
>
> I am guessing however in either of the latter scenarios if stored in non
> plastic inner containers they would be fine.
>
> Wondering what everones take is on fireproofing collections. Is there a
> decent way to fireproof and still be displayable? Are folks using safes
> thinking it will help in a fire?
>
> If exposed to a bad fire has there ever been an effort to reidentify and
> restore specimins?
>
> On Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 1:00:55 PM EDT, Jeff Kuyken via
> Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
>
> Truely a sad day for Brazil and all however the Bendego meteorite has at
> least survived:
>
> https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/00ec8479c0e3b749032f0c0cbde1ffc3
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff Kuyken
> Meteorites Australia
> www.meteorites.com.au
> IMCA #3085
> www.imca.cc
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:54 PM +1000, "Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list"
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> Absolutely a tragedy for all humanity. Massive collections of historical items.
>
> Michael Farmer
>
> > On Sep 3, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Paul via Meteorite-list wrote:
> >
> > Inferno at Brazil's National Museum causes 'irreparable'
> > damage and grief By Claudia Dominguez, Flora Charner
> > and Holly Yan, CNN, September 3, 2018
> > https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/02/americas/brazil-national-museum-fire-intl/index.html
> >
> > Brazil National Museum fire: Key treasures at risk, BBC News
> > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-45395774
> >
> > Brazil museum fire: Funding cuts blamed as icon is gutted, BBC News
> > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-45398084
> >
> > Among the 20 million items presumed lost are a Maxakalisaurus
> > skeleton, 11,500 year-old Luzia remains, Pompeii fresco, and
> > countless Pre-Columbian artifacts. The museum contains a
> > meteorite collection, which includes the Bendeg? Meteorite.
> >
> > Luzia Woman
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luzia_Woman
> >
> > Bendeg? Meteorite
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bendeg?_meteorite
> > https://meteoritosbrasileiros.webs.com/bendego1.html
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> > Paul H.
> >
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