[meteorite-list] BLM Public Land

From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 16:01:20 -0800
Message-ID: <c9233b48-0989-2632-8287-b6efed0654c7_at_centurylink.net>

One just needs to search the List archives to discover the truth.

In any case, the BLM has made its position clear on the subject. The
laws that apply to finds are the same for falls. The BLM doesn't
differentiate between the two. Let's just hope that the rest of our
rights are not lost. It only takes a few to ruin it for everybody else.

Adam






On 1/8/2018 3:45 PM, Ruben Garcia wrote:
> I haven't hunted meteorites - other than the occasional fall or probable
> fall - in many years and no I never had any trouble with any government
> or state agency relating to meteorites or anything else.
>
> On Jan 8, 2018 2:58 PM, "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list"
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Ruben and List,
>
> Ruben, didn't you have problems with the BLM?
>
> I was just trying to save some dealers from grief.? I do not agree
> with the new laws, that were incorporated after much press about the
> monetary value of meteorites aired a few years back, but still abide
> by them.
>
> Anybody dealing meteorites found on public land is at serious risk
> of prosecution since they are making themselves low-hanging fruit
> for competitors and agents alike.? It only takes one phone call.
> Not only that, dealers who break the law by selling these finds,
> jeopardize the collection of meteorites on public lands for the rest
> of us.? Dealers breaking the law can be used as examples for even
> stricter laws forbidding the hunting of meteorites altogether.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/8/2018 1:03 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote:
>
> This just in, Adam has finally commented on everything,
> including Ads!
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the heads up, but really...
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>
> ________________________________
> On Sunday, January 7, 2018 Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>> wrote:
> I do not normally comment on ads but sellers should keep in
> mind that
> selling meteorites found on public lands in the U.S. is
> against federal law.
> I do not want to see anybody get into trouble because, as
> some List Members
> have found out the hard way, the BLM does monitor meteorite
> sales,
> especially eBay. Meteorites may be casually collected, i.e.,
> for free and
> without a permit, under FLPMA However,in accordance with the
> BLM's
> regulations at 43 CFR 8365.1-5 collection is limited to
> certain public
> lands, (2) only specimens up to ten pounds may be collected
> per person per
> year, and (3) only surface collection with the use of
> non-motorized and
> non-Mechanical equipment is allowed; metal detectors are
> okay. However,
> specimens that are casually collected are for personal use
> only, and may not
> be bartered or sold for commercial purposes. Reference:
> https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/uploads/IM2012-182_att1.pdf
> <https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/uploads/IM2012-182_att1.pdf>
> Happy
> hunting,
> On 1/7/2018 8:56 AM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list wrote:
> > > List, > > I
> have 32 auctions running right now with some ending in about
> 24 hours. Most
> started at .99 with no reserve and some still have no bids.
> There are a few
> items rarely offered, like Osceola, the witnessed fall from
> Florida. Or NWA
> 11107 a rare eucrite melt. Right now there is a 2.8 gram end
> cut with only 2
> bids, $2.51 at the moment. > > Some other highlights would
> be the rarely
> offered Arizona find officially recognized as Bullhead City.
> Another rarely
> offered Arizona meteorite, the witnessed fall called Indian
> Butte, aka
> Stanfield. I have a low TKW Howardite that is gorgeous, NWA
> 11184. It's a
> 2.71 gram full slice that is currently at $13.00. > > Don't
> miss the
> extraordinary Anda tektites. The first 2 I put up sold
> quick, there are 2
> more up with very reasonable buy it now prices and a quick
> search on the
> internet will demonstrate the rarity, these things are
> practically
> unobtainable. > > Others listed are: > Holbrook frag's from
> my big find in
> 2007. > A 3.2 kg Gold Basin from the Nevada side. > NWA 6581
> an LL6. > NWA
> 10140 Lunar 1 of only 2 anorthositic troctolite. >
> unclassified NWA type3
> slices. > NWA 8663 A complete crusted eucrite stone with no
> bids and no
> reserve! > > There are others as well, take a minute and
> check them out if
> interested. > > Thank you. > > > >
> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=48438-9655&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_fss=1&_fsradio=%26LH_SpecificSeller%3D1&_saslop=1&_sasl=alienrockfarm&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=200
> <https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=48438-9655&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_fss=1&_fsradio=%26LH_SpecificSeller%3D1&_saslop=1&_sasl=alienrockfarm&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=200>
>
> Sincerely, > Larry Atkins > > > >
> www.CosmicConnectionMeteorites.com
> <http://www.CosmicConnectionMeteorites.com> >
>
> IMCA # 1941 > > Ebay alienrockfarm > > >
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