[meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)
From: Chris Colvin <christopher.colvin.1992_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 23:18:55 -0600 Message-ID: <CAMS8vHt+VgQky4sRFQCAYwJ8Grmpkf0BUMWYH6MdP10DAfy_bQ_at_mail.gmail.com> I'll preface this with the fact that I am a collector. Not a dealer... not interested. Just collecting. I purchased a part slice of Sericho from Michael Farmer back at the beginning of the year. It was prepared extremely well and remains in its case of desiccant inside of my display case. There have been no cases of rust, Lawrencite, or any other issues that are in question with my specimen. This is in Minnesota where up until recently the humidity doesn't drop below 60-70% during spring or summer. Keeping any sort of Iron in check around this part of the country is a giant pain. Hope this cleared some of the questions up. Regards, Chris On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:49 PM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list < meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > No Adam, > > I just gave some praise towards you, to someone. However,,,,,,,,, > > I'm in no way Judge, Jury, Sheriff nor Deputy---- Again, however I > am someone that Realizes when someone/anyone begins to spout > their own tree stump Bull-shit Too often. Gets really old hand. > > My question to you is why do you continue to do this -- why, why ?? > > You don't need to make yourself look like a fool. > I'm the best fool on any List -- you Now take my place ! > > With some respect, John > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > To: "metlist" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 11:32 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein) > > > I was just responding to Mikes post to the List about travel. > Denationalizing millions of acres is meteorite related since it opens > these lands back up to searching. > > Are you the second list sheriff or just a deputy? > > Adam > > > > > On 12/4/2017 8:28 PM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list wrote: > > Adam, > > > > Now, I truly believe you have lost your focus.......... > > > > And you just want to listen to yourself......whatever you want to say. > > > > Adam -- this is the Meteorite List ..--stay on Subject ! > > > > Subject: - Stabilility of Sericho (Habaswein). > > > > What am I Missing ?????????? > > > > John > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list_at_ > meteoritecentral.com> > > To: "metlist" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 11:15 PM > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein) > > > > > > I travel all of the time. I just don't produce Brian Williams type > > reports every time I return home. You should be happy to hear that > > millions of acres (National Monuments) were restored (denationalized) > > today to meteorite hunting and for actual public use in Utah. Nevada > > and California are next. Perhaps I will explore these areas when they > > become available again for public enjoyment > > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > > On 12/4/2017 7:56 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: > >> As if you know anything about what this was selling for in Japan. When > if the last time you?ve left your house? > >> > >> Michael Farmer > >> > >>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list < > meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Rock on Mr Haag, awesome to see you post on the met-list again! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list > >>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > >>>> It is interesting how quickly the price has dropped on this > Pallasite, even > >>>> in Japan where it was being dumped over the weekend. Now that the > show has > >>>> ended, it will be interesting what price it brings in Tucson. > >>>> > >>>> I wouldn't pay 20 cents a gram for this material after hearing > collector > >>>> reports, even with a lifetime rust-free guarantee. > >>>> > >>>> Adam > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On 12/4/2017 6:39 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Adam. Give me a break. Sorry you are left behind on this one. But > leaving > >>>>> your sofa is required. > >>>>> We are all having a great laugh at this post in Japan. I can?t > recall you > >>>>> ever owning or selling a pallasite. Please enlighten us as to your > >>>>> experience. > >>>>> Michael Farmer > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list > >>>>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Oops, Chevy > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=1955+ford&LH_ > PrefLoc=2&_sc=1&_sop=3&_sticky=1&_trkparms=65%253A16% > 257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1&_osacat=0&_ipg=200&_from=R40&_ > trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.X1955+chevy. > TRS0&_nkw=1955+chevy&_sacat=0 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Rob > >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" > >>>>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > >>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:58 PM > >>>>>> To: "metlist" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein) > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> The fact that dealers are applying sealants and anti-rust coatings > to > >>>>>>> this Pallasite, like an old 55 Chevy from the East Coast, > indicates that > >>>>>>> Sericho (Habaswein) is indeed a ruster. I received several > reports today of > >>>>>>> rusticles, green goo, chemical smells, dislodged crystals and > popping noises > >>>>>>> coming from specimens. Maybe it should be upgraded from ruster to > serious > >>>>>>> ruster. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Stable Pallasites like Esquel do not require any special treatment > other > >>>>>>> than avoiding chlorinated water during preparation, proper > high-grade > >>>>>>> polishing and low humidity storage/display. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I avoid rusters at all costs, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Adam > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 12/4/2017 10:40 AM, Bigjohn Shea wrote: > >>>>>>>> I got my sealed full slice of Habaswein from Rob many months ago > and > >>>>>>>> don't see a lick of rusting on it. Sealant appears to be working > great. :-D > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> If I were in the market for a specimen, I'd listen to the guy who > >>>>>>>> actually has experience working with the meteorite in question. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Additionally, > >>>>>>>> Large multi-kg specimens of Habaswein do sell in the 0.5$/g range. > >>>>>>>> Expertly prepared slices do not. They sell for 8-10 times that > price. That > >>>>>>>> distinction needs to be made. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>> John A. Shea, MD > >>>>>>>> IMCA 3295 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sent using the mail.com mail app > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 12/4/17 at 11:14 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> My advice is to stay away from any sliced pieces with a lacquer > or > >>>>>>>>> clear-coat surface. It is sign that shortcuts were taken in its > >>>>>>>>> preparation. Proper polishing reduces the surface area on cut > pieces > >>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>> any meteorite aiding in the prevention of "lawrencite disease." > Not > >>>>>>>>> only that, these coatings will accelerate the deterioration > process by > >>>>>>>>> trapping moisture. It is important to store this material in low > >>>>>>>>> humidity environments with plenty of air circulation. Also, > exposure > >>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> direct sunlight will cause the crystals to darken with time. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> A lot of collectors are in the wait and see mode since there are > >>>>>>>>> several > >>>>>>>>> metric tons of this material available. The lowest price I have > seen > >>>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>>> around 46 cents a gram for a recently sold piece on eBay. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Happy Collecting, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Adam > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 12/2/2017 5:14 AM, Andrey via Meteorite-list wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Hello Dear List Members, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Just a small question to new Sericho (was Habaswein) Kenya > pallasite > >>>>>>>>>> owners, dealers, cutters: how stable is it? > >>>>>>>>>> From my own experience I noticed its extreme degree of > instability, > >>>>>>>>>> similar to Admire or even more... Is this unlucky piece, just > >>>>>>>>>> fortuity > >>>>>>>>>> or is it really so? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your answers, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Andrey, > >>>>>>>>>> IMCA#6240 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/ > meteoritecentral and > >>>>>>>>>> the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > >>>>>>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >>>>>>>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > >>>>>>>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/ > meteoritecentral and > >>>>>>>>> the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > >>>>>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >>>>>>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > >>>>>>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral > and > >>>>>>> the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > >>>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >>>>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > >>>>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ______________________________________________ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral > and the > >>>>>> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > >>>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >>>>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > >>>>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> ______________________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral > and the > >>>> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > >>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Rock On! > >>> > >>> Ruben Garcia > >>> > >>> www.RubenMrMeteoriteGarcia.com > >>> ______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and > the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > >>> Meteorite-list mailing list > >>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > >>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >> > >> > > ______________________________________________ > > > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and > the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and > the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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