[meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

From: John Lutzon <jl_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 23:49:36 -0500
Message-ID: <55A94E69B76F439C9552929755ED72A6_at_Home>

No Adam,

I just gave some praise towards you, to someone. However,,,,,,,,,

I'm in no way Judge, Jury, Sheriff nor Deputy---- Again, however I
am someone that Realizes when someone/anyone begins to spout
their own tree stump Bull-shit Too often. Gets really old hand.

My question to you is why do you continue to do this -- why, why ??

You don't need to make yourself look like a fool.
I'm the best fool on any List -- you Now take my place !

With some respect, John


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
To: "metlist" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)


I was just responding to Mikes post to the List about travel.
Denationalizing millions of acres is meteorite related since it opens
these lands back up to searching.

Are you the second list sheriff or just a deputy?

Adam




On 12/4/2017 8:28 PM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list wrote:
> Adam,
>
> Now, I truly believe you have lost your focus..........
>
> And you just want to listen to yourself......whatever you want to say.
>
> Adam -- this is the Meteorite List ..--stay on Subject !
>
> Subject: - Stabilility of Sericho (Habaswein).
>
> What am I Missing ??????????
>
> John
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> To: "metlist" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 11:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)
>
>
> I travel all of the time. I just don't produce Brian Williams type
> reports every time I return home. You should be happy to hear that
> millions of acres (National Monuments) were restored (denationalized)
> today to meteorite hunting and for actual public use in Utah. Nevada
> and California are next. Perhaps I will explore these areas when they
> become available again for public enjoyment
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
> On 12/4/2017 7:56 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
>> As if you know anything about what this was selling for in Japan. When if the last time you?ve left your house?
>>
>> Michael Farmer
>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Rock on Mr Haag, awesome to see you post on the met-list again!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>> It is interesting how quickly the price has dropped on this Pallasite, even
>>>> in Japan where it was being dumped over the weekend. Now that the show has
>>>> ended, it will be interesting what price it brings in Tucson.
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't pay 20 cents a gram for this material after hearing collector
>>>> reports, even with a lifetime rust-free guarantee.
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/4/2017 6:39 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam. Give me a break. Sorry you are left behind on this one. But leaving
>>>>> your sofa is required.
>>>>> We are all having a great laugh at this post in Japan. I can?t recall you
>>>>> ever owning or selling a pallasite. Please enlighten us as to your
>>>>> experience.
>>>>> Michael Farmer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list
>>>>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oops, Chevy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=1955+ford&LH_PrefLoc=2&_sc=1&_sop=3&_sticky=1&_trkparms=65%253A16%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1&_osacat=0&_ipg=200&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.X1955+chevy.TRS0&_nkw=1955+chevy&_sacat=0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list"
>>>>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:58 PM
>>>>>> To: "metlist" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The fact that dealers are applying sealants and anti-rust coatings to
>>>>>>> this Pallasite, like an old 55 Chevy from the East Coast, indicates that
>>>>>>> Sericho (Habaswein) is indeed a ruster. I received several reports today of
>>>>>>> rusticles, green goo, chemical smells, dislodged crystals and popping noises
>>>>>>> coming from specimens. Maybe it should be upgraded from ruster to serious
>>>>>>> ruster.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stable Pallasites like Esquel do not require any special treatment other
>>>>>>> than avoiding chlorinated water during preparation, proper high-grade
>>>>>>> polishing and low humidity storage/display.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I avoid rusters at all costs,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/4/2017 10:40 AM, Bigjohn Shea wrote:
>>>>>>>> I got my sealed full slice of Habaswein from Rob many months ago and
>>>>>>>> don't see a lick of rusting on it. Sealant appears to be working great. :-D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I were in the market for a specimen, I'd listen to the guy who
>>>>>>>> actually has experience working with the meteorite in question.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Additionally,
>>>>>>>> Large multi-kg specimens of Habaswein do sell in the 0.5$/g range.
>>>>>>>> Expertly prepared slices do not. They sell for 8-10 times that price. That
>>>>>>>> distinction needs to be made.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> John A. Shea, MD
>>>>>>>> IMCA 3295
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/4/17 at 11:14 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My advice is to stay away from any sliced pieces with a lacquer or
>>>>>>>>> clear-coat surface. It is sign that shortcuts were taken in its
>>>>>>>>> preparation. Proper polishing reduces the surface area on cut pieces
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> any meteorite aiding in the prevention of "lawrencite disease." Not
>>>>>>>>> only that, these coatings will accelerate the deterioration process by
>>>>>>>>> trapping moisture. It is important to store this material in low
>>>>>>>>> humidity environments with plenty of air circulation. Also, exposure
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> direct sunlight will cause the crystals to darken with time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A lot of collectors are in the wait and see mode since there are
>>>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>>>> metric tons of this material available. The lowest price I have seen
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> around 46 cents a gram for a recently sold piece on eBay.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Happy Collecting,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/2/2017 5:14 AM, Andrey via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Dear List Members,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just a small question to new Sericho (was Habaswein) Kenya pallasite
>>>>>>>>>> owners, dealers, cutters: how stable is it?
>>>>>>>>>> From my own experience I noticed its extreme degree of instability,
>>>>>>>>>> similar to Admire or even more... Is this unlucky piece, just
>>>>>>>>>> fortuity
>>>>>>>>>> or is it really so?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your answers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Andrey,
>>>>>>>>>> IMCA#6240
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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