[meteorite-list] Accepting Inquiries From Accredited Scientific or Educational Institutions...

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <*meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com*> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 14:01:47 -0400 Message-ID: <CAKBPJW88YPnX=VRFB=iNmW4u15LM9goK6+_r7U-OpVdRnrGduA_at_mail.gmail.com> · meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com

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On 6/7/15, Peter Richards <pedrichards at gmail.com> wrote:
> Mike, I think your approach is great for novices. I know that not only
> you but many professional meteoricists have your "hardline", barely
> logical, if so, preconceived, "paper form" reply, when, of course, it
> is an odd inheritor of the mantle of people who once said meteorites
> did not even exist, which I believe Geoff Notkin has reported included
> the heads of the Catholic church at one point historically. I get that
> scientists, like you seem to me to, might prefer to discredit the
> possibility than be honest, yet, again, it is what it is. My previous
> statements are what they are. You can call them what you want, at the
> behest of yourself or your friends or whoever motivates you to do what
> you do. Of course, oddly enough, you seemingly disingenuous people are
> leaning into this, and seem prepared to throw your all at me in such a
> muckracking match, in lieu of the professionals. Really, I have some
> emails from them, so it is the same. You all are what you are, the
> rock is what it is (as previously described), and I am what I am, and
> maybe I should have not been provoked by your message, and ignored it,
> but, I have already written this and the "send" button is in sight, so
> do not fight. I know how great you all are. I have explained what you
> are doing. I don't know why. It does protect your financial interests,
> and my writing the truth, and not being cowed by past "infidelities"
> is my attempt to protect my own.
> cordially,
> Peter
> P.S. There are no granite meteorites recognized/officially-known and
> would it not be bizarre if some people had a bias towards wanting it
> to stay that way?
>
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks
> <meteoritemike at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> It's hard to tell from the photos, but I do not see any outward signs
>> that would suggest these rocks might be meteorites.   I do not see any
>> fusion crust, and what I do see is probably desert varnish.  Desert
>> varnish forms on all rocks, not just meteorites.
>>
>> Have you done a streak test or specific gravity test? These are both
>> low-tech tests that anybody can use to narrow down the range of
>> possibilities.  If the rocks fails the streak test, it's not a
>> meteorite.  If the rock has a specific gravity that falls outside the
>> range for stony meteorites, then it's not a meteorite.
>>
>> You will find that most "accredited" institutions that work with
>> meteorites do not accept unsolicited samples because of the sheer
>> volume of rocks clogging the system waiting for analysis.
>>
>> My advice is to use the streak and specific gravity tests to help rule
>> in/out the possibility of the stones being meteoritic or terrestrial.
>> If the rocks pass these tests, then try cutting a window into one of
>> them and see if there are any chondrules or metal flecks.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> MikeG
>>
>> PS - there are no granite meteorites, so if the rock is "granite" then
>> it is not a meteorite.
>>
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>> On 6/7/15, Peter Richards via Meteorite-list
>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Michael, no, but I will pass the Actlabs information on to any
>>> representatives of accredited institutions who inquire. The stone is a
>>> granite, and the photos may not tell the story of the crust glaringly,
>>> but it is apparently what is there, for those of us (me only right
>>> now) who have the privilege of holding the stone. Thank you for the
>>> "bump" anyway, although, of course, I am wondering what your
>>> intentions were. Anyway, again, you use official scale cubes, and
>>> these animal sculptures are all I have right now, but I understand
>>> that it is less than fully ideal, and, again, this is not a commercial
>>> sale, so to Mr. Farmer's defence, he is not lowering the price for
>>> some associate of his to buy. Yes, I am a real person and an American
>>> citizen, and the rock is as it was described, and I am sorry that some
>>> people want to tell me it is what sort of terrestrial rock by chance?
>>> God knows. Keep looking if interested, and I will try to improve the
>>> photos, but there is perhaps adequate visual information already.
>>> regards,
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> What kind of Nigerian scam attempt is this email? Trying to sell
>>>> garbage
>>>> trinkets?
>>>> A,asking what makes it on the list these days.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 6, 2015, at 8:48 PM, Peter Richards via Meteorite-list
>>>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> To whom it may concern, I am offering this link, for the benefit of
>>>>> representatives of accredited educational and scientific institutions,
>>>>> displaying a stone which an Actlabs (of Lancaster, Ontario) report has
>>>>> identified to me as a granite, which, is almost definitely meteoritic,
>>>>> which I say due to the distinct coating, and its shape, given that I
>>>>> have not shaped or coated this stone and that these traits appear in
>>>>> no way artificial. I can only guess what value to anyone denying that
>>>>> this could be a meteorite is, but I will have to preclude such
>>>>> proclamations by reminding people that, unless I have truly missed
>>>>> something, there is less evidence to support such a claim than there
>>>>> is to support my above-made claim.
>>>>> Here is a link to a photo album, please see first photo (sculptures
>>>>> are for scale reference, btw):
>>>>> http://www.ipernity.com/doc/312101/album/793480
>>>>> I am gauging interest alone here, I do not suppose this counts as an
>>>>> ad, for the purposes are less than commercial although I, of course,
>>>>> would like to determine if it is legal for any grants, or such things,
>>>>> to be given by any willing recipients of any material I make
>>>>> available, to me, as a token of gratitude, to compensate for my
>>>>> exertions while acquiring this, and to help me better conserve what I
>>>>> have collected, in case there is indeed scientific value belonging to
>>>>> this collection of mine, and, it is ultimately up to Art whether or
>>>>> not this counts as an advertisement technically speaking.
>>>>> Promptness will be much appreciated and rewarded where possible.
>>>>> Once more, this is for accredited educational or scientific
>>>>> institutions. I will hear of interest from outside the U.S., but the
>>>>> state department's approval will be needed before anything is provided
>>>>> to such institutions, as according to law.
>>>>> Thank you and kindest regards to all,
>>>>> Peter E. D. Richards
>>>>> currently of Chicago, IL
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