[meteorite-list] New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite

From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 09:35:56 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <1383237356.67632.YahooMailNeo_at_web122004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

One problem is that the press rarely mentions collaboration between scientists, collectors and finders.?? The owner of the main mass may not trust their government and feel the need to protect his/her assets.? I am sure a lot of U.S. finds are not being reported or shared for the same reason. Hunters are keenly aware that the 10 pound limit here is just a farce.? If the U.S. government determines their is cultural or scientific value, then the finder is sure to lose their find regardless of any weight limit.? Good luck to anyone who finds the first American lunar.?? I am sure they will be very protective because government officials and politicians tell lies most of the time to the people they "serve" and are never held accountable for it.

Some will never get the message as I still see people openly selling meteorites found on dry lake beds here in Nevada although they are not to be used for commercial purposes.? 89% of the land here is B.L.M. which covers virtually all of the dry lake beds.


These days, No good deed goes unpunished so expecting somebody to freely collaborate may soon be a thing of the past.


Adam



----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Agee <agee at unm.edu>
To: karmaka <karmaka-meteorites at t-online.de>
Cc: met-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite

Martin,

Thanks for posting! I think I was able to decipher the article's
translation. I am left with the impression that all the Norwegian
scientists are asking is that the Grefsen be classified?

I did check the MetBull and this is the result: No records found for
meteorites with names that contain "Grefsen"; No synonyms containing
"Grefsen" were found.

Seems incredibly short-sighted of the holders of the main mass not to
want it classified given that all that all they will give up is 20g!
Plus the value will be enhanced. Furthermore, this is also the type of
bad behavior that does get attention of government officials, and so
at some point they may indeed change the current "finder is owner"
rule to "finder must give all to the Kingdom of Norway".

Or perhaps this is a Norwegian turf war? Perhaps an outsider could
convince the owners to do the right thing and get it classified. Has
anyone contacted them?

Carl Agee


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2013/10/31 karmaka <karmaka-meteorites at t-online.de>:
> New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite
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