[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 23:21:54 -0400
Message-ID: <CAKBPJW-eCcmSCwP2s_XHEOyQhGuPpDvwNkQd2y9qfCtXWNtkOw_at_mail.gmail.com>

Found this one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RznHQKjWBSA

Thanks for the heads-up on it Mike. I hadn't seen that one before.
Too bad there was no sound, but the imagery is still scary. That one
shot of people sitting on benches indoors near windows was indicative
of lady luck. A couple of people get up from the bench to go outside
and look, moments later the bench they were sitting on it showered
with broken glass and debris. They would have been seriously injured
or killed if they had remained in their seats.

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On 3/25/13, Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> wrote:
> Liveleak and YouTube.
> Google Chelyabinsk university and meteorite and you will see :)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 25, 2013, at 7:48 PM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks"
> <meteoritemike at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I didn't see those videos.  How the heck did I miss those?  I did see
>> alot of videos of the booms, broken glass, and the aftermath, but I
>> didn't see any of people being blown around.  Got a link to those?  I
>> wanna see those, even though I feel a little creepy wanting to watch
>> that - the idea of people being hurt is terrible to me, but it's like
>> a trainwreck and I wanna see.
>>
>> I did think about how the Russians in some of the videos seemed pretty
>> nonchalant about the explosions.  I think people here in the US would
>> have been crapping themselves.  No offense to the good ole USA, but
>> the Russians are a little harder to scare.
>>
>> I hope I never see something like this first-hand.  I admit, I would
>> need to change my pants afterwards, if I survived.
>>
>> We really need to get some kind of detection network up and running,
>> and then put together a viable plan of action if we ever need to
>> interdict one of these objects on it's way to Earth again.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> MikeG
>>
>>
>> On 3/25/13, Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> wrote:
>>> Didn't you see the videos of people being blown into walls by the
>>> shockwave?
>>> There are great surveillance videos showing people at the university
>>> being
>>> thrown against walls and blown down. If it can cave in building, it can
>>> sure
>>> hurt people.
>>> My hotel lost 25% of the windows and a maid was hospitalized with many
>>> glass
>>> cuts. Imagine of over Chicago or New York? Thousands likely dead from
>>> falling glass alone.
>>> Michael Farmer
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 25, 2013, at 7:20 PM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks"
>>> <meteoritemike at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>
>>>> Do you know any details on their injuries?  Was the broken back a
>>>> result of falling debris?  I imagine flying glass wasn't responsible
>>>> for the spine injury, but I could be wrong.  And what about the other
>>>> injuries?  I don't recall hearing much about it in the media reports.
>>>> A shame that people are clinging to life in ICU wards as a result of
>>>> this event and we don't hear anything about them.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> MikeG
>>>>
>>>> PS - if someone dies as a result of injuries sustained from this fall,
>>>> would that be a first in modern times?  This makes Ms. Hodges
>>>> Sylacauga wound seem minor in comparison.
>>>>
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>>>> On 3/25/13, Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> wrote:
>>>>> There are still 4 people in critical condition in the hospital there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Farmer
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 25, 2013, at 7:11 PM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks"
>>>>> <meteoritemike at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Has there been any update on the woman who suffered a broken back
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> the event?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/25/13, Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I was just in Chelyabinsk, a city under emergency for the last
>>>>>>> month,
>>>>>>> -20
>>>>>>> and tens of thousands of windows blown out, not only glass, but
>>>>>>> entire
>>>>>>> walls
>>>>>>> of many buildings caved in,  entire buildings collapsed, and more
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> 1500
>>>>>>> wounded, some still in the hospital, and that was just a meteorite
>>>>>>> passing
>>>>>>> overhead 30 miles high.
>>>>>>> Are you telling me that those hundreds of thousands of stones,
>>>>>>> doubtless
>>>>>>> many weighing tons, would not have killed thousands or destroyed
>>>>>>> hundreds
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> buildings if it had directly impacted the city at a high angle? I
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> damage would have been catastrophic and the death toll in the
>>>>>>> thousands.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael Farmer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Chris Peterson <clp at alumni.caltech.edu>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's extremely doubtful that this body could have done all that
>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> damage. It simply wasn't big enough, or strong enough. A little
>>>>>>>> steeper
>>>>>>>> (or just as likely, as little shallower), a little earlier or
>>>>>>>> later,
>>>>>>>> probably wouldn't have made much difference.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While I'd love to see a constellation of IR space telescopes
>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> asteroids in this size range, realistically there's probably
>>>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> could do if we found one, and as a matter of public policy, the
>>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>>> might well be considered poorly spent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The reality is that the actual risk to human life and property from
>>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>> asteroids is absurdly small compared to a large number of other
>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>> that we actually have some control over.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *******************************
>>>>>>>> Chris L Peterson
>>>>>>>> Cloudbait Observatory
>>>>>>>> http://www.cloudbait.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/25/2013 3:15 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Congratulations to Dante Lauretta of UOfA Lunar and Planetary
>>>>>>>>> Laboratory
>>>>>>>>> and Osiris-Rex mission, who presented a piece of Chelyabinsk that
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> donated, to President Obama and Congress today while there to
>>>>>>>>> discuss
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> threat of asteroid impact.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Chelyabinsk was almost a "City Killer" as Richard Kowalski told me
>>>>>>>>> yesterday, had it come in a few second earlier and steeper angle,
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> million people in Chelyabinsk would likely be dead today.
>>>>>>>>> Time to take meteorites serious.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Michael Farmer
>>>>>>>>
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