[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day (suspended until further notice)

From: hall at meteorhall.com <hall_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 21:39:44 -0500
Message-ID: <66e7791f27ade9d28ef8340500787588.squirrel_at_emailmg.ipage.com>

Scientists argue all the time. Discussion is what drives every science.
Words are important. I'm impotent...wait, that's from an old joke. See,
even spelling is important!
Good Night, Fred

> People can argue about many things my question is why....................
>
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks
> <meteoritemike at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Attention : sales of all unobserved falls are hereby suspended until
>> further notice. ;)
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>> On 1/4/13, Mike Bandli <fuzzfoot at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> If a meteorite falls from the sky and no one is there to hear it, does
>>> it
>>> make a sound?
>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
>>> hall at meteorhall.com
>>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 5:36 PM
>>> To: Anne Black
>>> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com; valparint at aol.com
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
>>>
>>> Right, Anne. That is why they are referred to as a "Fall" or a "Find".
>>> Concise!
>>> Cheers, Fred Hall
>>>
>>>> Every single meteorite ever found on Earth is necessarily the result
>>>> of a fall, they are not native to Earth. The only difference is that
>>>> some falls are seen, witnessed, and some, the vast majoriry, are not.
>>>>
>>>> So calling them Observed or Unobserved falls is logical. That is what
>>>> happened to all of them.
>>>> That is simple reality.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anne M. Black
>>>> www.IMPACTIKA.com
>>>> IMPACTIKA at aol.com
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> tFrom: hall <hall at meteorhall.com>
>>>> To: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>>> Cc: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; valparint
>>>> <valparint at aol.com>
>>>> Sent: Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:13 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> An "unobserved fall" is two words to describe the one word that has
>>>> been used for a century, "Find". The one word "Find" is good enough
>>>> for the Catalogue of Meteorites, it was good enough for Harvey
>>>> Nininger, and it is what I shall always use. Keep it concise.
>>>> Regards, Fred Hall
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That would make sense for say New Orleans, where a stone went through
>>>> a
>>>>> house and no one in their right mind would suggest that it did not
>>>> fall at
>>>>> that time say between 8 am and 4 pm when there was no hole in the
>>>> house,
>>>>> yet it was not seen to fall.
>>>>> An old rock found in a field does not suggest anything about fall
>>>> date. So
>>>>> it is a find, something never really argued against until now?
>>>>> It has crust which can suggest it is not thousands of years old, most
>>>> of
>>>>> our Springwater meteorites have black and blue crust but nevertheless
>>>> it
>>>>> is a find.
>>>>> Michael Farmer
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 4, 2013, at 10:28 AM, <valparint at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> An "unobserved fall" is, well, a fall that was not observed, in
>>>>>> contradistinction to a fall that was observed. The terminology of
>>>>>> the Meteoritical Bulletin Database is "Observed fall: no".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The information being conveyed is NOT that the meteorite fell but
>>>> that
>>>>>> the fall was not observed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In general, the questions about falling and finding are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) was the fall observed?
>>>>>> 2) if so, when was it observed?
>>>>>> 3) if not, is there any guesstimate of when it fell?
>>>>>> 4) regardless of weather it was observed or not, when was it
>>>>>> actually found?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul Swartz
>>>>>> MPOD webmaster
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is an "unobserved fall"? Every meteorite fell at some point. I
>>>>>>> have thousands of unobserved falls in my collection.
>>>>>>> Michael Farmer
>>>>>>>
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