[meteorite-list] Getting Novato approved

From: Pat Brown <scientificlifestyle_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 20:35:38 -0700
Message-ID: <BLU171-W1073C446CFA2B81235790DDBDB30_at_phx.gbl>

Hello Rob, the other Novato searchers and the List,

This is a very interesting Urban fall and a very challenging meteorite to hunt.

Personally, I hunted my backside off and did not find a crumb (although, I went right past the individual that Bob Verish discovered, like within 4-6 feet!).

Is not the rule 20 grams or 20% if the original mass was less than 100 grams?

If the finder that deposited ~14.4 grams represented that as 20% of the?individual meteorite found, does that not meet the Meteoritical Society Nomenclature Committee guidelines?

Personally, I would very much like to see this one in the Bulletin.?

I would be very interested in understanding the masses that were found.

Yours in Science,?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Pat Brown?

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> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 20:08:46 -0700
> From: ROBERT.D.MATSON at saic.com
> To: jim.wooddell at suddenlink.net; mike at meteoriteguy.com; bolidechaser at yahoo.com; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Getting Novato approved
>
> Hi All,
>
> Well, clearly ~some~ material was deposited at UCLA, otherwise
> there would be no Novato classification. The issue is instead
> one of *sufficient* deposit (20 grams in this case) in a recognized
> institution for the Nomenclature Committee to put it up for a vote.
> I frankly don't know how much of Novato UCLA received, but the
> balance to be made up is obviously less than 20 grams. If they are
> short by less than 6.6 grams, I would certainly consider buying
> the Brien Cook slice and donating it to UCLA to get this on the
> books.
>
> --Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Wooddell
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 6:25 PM
> To: Michael Farmer; Robert Verish
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Novato back in the market
>
>
> Yes....what happened to the type specimen? I was under the impression
> no one sent a type specimen that met the standing requirement?
>
> Jim Wooddell - Mobile
>
> Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> wrote:
>
> >Perhaps a finder of one of the recovered pieces should step up, and cut
> a piece for science?
> >I think they need more than 6 grams for the noncom rules do they not?
> >Didn't several California hunters find pieces? I guess this will just
> be another no-name fall.
> >Michael Farmer
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >On Apr 30, 2013, at 4:32 AM, Robert Verish <bolidechaser at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Actually, it's still the "Novato" (provisional) meteorite.
> >> It still is not in the Meteoritical Bulletin.
> >>
> >> This is the slice that Brien Cook originally cut with the intention
> of submitting it to UCLA. But when he read that someone else was going
> to supply the type-specimen, he then placed it on eBay.
> >>
> >> It would be nice if some Institute or consortium would make an offer
> and try to repatriate this slice and make it a type-specimen so that
> this US-fall could finally be made "official". All I'm saying is, this
> "leaving an official-status hanging-in-mid-air" would never happen in
> Canada. They would just simply buy the type-specimen.
> >>
> >> It's time for the US to catch-up with Canada. It's time for a
> change.
> >> Bob V.
> >>
> >> --- On Mon, 4/29/13, Matija Bericic <matija.bericic at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> From: Matija Bericic <matija.bericic at yahoo.com>
> >>> Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: Novato back in the market
> >>> To: "meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com"
> >>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> >>> Date: Monday, April 29, 2013, 10:48 AM
> >>>
> >>> Hi list,
> >>> We have finished researching Novato meteorite and we do not need it
> >>> anymore. 6.6 g slice was bought on ebay auction on 27th of October
> >>> 2012 from hunter Brien Cook.
> >>> Anyone interested in this rare piece make me an offer off list.
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Matija Bericic
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