[meteorite-list] New BLM Rules

From: Adam Hupe <*raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com*> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 07:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1348238307.32556.YahooMailNeo_at_web122003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> · raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com

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On 9/21/12, Shawn Alan <photophlow at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello Listers
>
> What is confusing for me is that its seem the new BLM rules make it
> impossible for scientist and institutions to hunt and collect "meteorites"
> in the name for science, I wonder why? You would think it would be just as
> easy for scientist as it is with the casual collector. As speaking of a
> casual collectors, how could one be 100% its a meteorite? At the end of the
> day, its a stone until otherwise prove or disprove by someone with
> expertise.
>
> Shawn Alan
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> [meteorite-list] New BLM Rules
> Jeff Grossman jngrossman
> at gmail.com
> Thu Sep 20 19:06:11 EDT 2012
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> All,
>
> For those of you who don't know, I contribute to
> this list as a private
> citizen, but I work at NASA headquarters, with duties
> that extend to
> oversight of curation and research programs. I will be
> reading all
> posts on the list pertaining to this issue.
>
> Jeff
>
> On 9/20/2012 6:37 PM, Jim Wooddell wrote:
>
>>I have been in
> communications with the BLM on and off all day. Art,
>
>>thank
> for the HTML reminder as I have been trying to post all day and
>
>>thought I had this set correctly!
>
>>
>
>>Here is the first response:
>
>>
>
>>Dear Mr. Wooddell: The application fee is dependent on the
> time it
>
>>takes for BLM to process the project proposal in the
> application. This
>
>>would be determined by the field office
> manager after the application
>
>>is submitted and reviewed.
> These fees would be estimated for you prior
>
>>to the
> processing of the application, and would include monitoring
>
>>fees as well. The permit application/ permit is 2920-1 attached; fees
>
>>would be on page 2 when a permit is issued. Some examples of
> what the
>
>>fees would be can be found on the following web
> site and one example
>
>>is attached. http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/prog/more/lands.html You
>
>>mentioned a ?nation-wide? permit in your email. BLM
> issues permits on
>
>>a local level, and at maximum could be on
> a state-wide level, for
>
>>lands that we administer in the
> Western States. Thank you,Lucia Kuizon
>
>>---
>
>>
>
>>I am not going to post their second
> response but they are now aware of
>
>>some issues that may or
> may not change the wording.
>
>>
>
>>I feel it is
> imperative for NASA to reach out and support hunters on
>
>>this
> issue in regards to the need to hunt fresh falls immediately,
>
>>without delay of some permit process. While they are
> claiming media
>
>>sparked this, most of us knew it was coming,
> just did not know when or
>
>>how the wording would be.
>
>>
>
>>The current fee structure is twofold. 1.
> The application / permit.
>
>>2. The monitoring fee. Currently
> the fees will range from ~$100 to
>
>>~$1100 for commercial
> hunters....those seeking profit. This is based
>
>>on their
> current cost recovery methods. I have both the application
>
>>and the fee schedule as example based on the above response. If
>
>>anyone wants them shoot me a private email.
>
>>
>
>>The big issue for hunters is that this
> will be based on a regional
>
>>level where each district
> supervisor may or may not have special
>
>>conditions, etc.
> Bottom line is that it will be required to have
>
>>permits in
> different hunting areas and could greatly increase overhead
>
>>for professional hunters. If hunters have to wait for a permit
>
>>process during a meteor event that produces meteorites, I
> feel science
>
>>looses.
>
>>
>
>>Regards,
>
>>
>
>>Jim
>
>>
>
>
>
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