[meteorite-list] Suspicious (ok, flat out fraud) Allende on eBay

From: Mendy Ouzillou <ouzillou_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 09:39:45 -0800
Message-ID: <00a801cde6b4$a891c680$f9b55380$_at_com>

OK, not the last update. New email from kidcentavo:
"Mendyo: After thinking this situation over, I will PULL the listing from
ebay, I have put a warning notice on the listing with what you said about
possibly being a west african common meteroite BUT ebay won't let me remove
it now, it will have to expire. I WILL take it to our university here in
town for anaylsis. And pay for it. IF it is the african rock, MY LOSS no one
else's. BUT, IF they tell me it is FROM Chihuahua it will go back on ebay
with the documentation, BUT it won't be for NO 895 dollars, AND everyone out
there can take that to the bank. KIDCENTAVO"
I sent him pictures of what real Allende looks like as well.

Mendy
-----Original Message-----
From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy
Ouzillou
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 8:56 AM
To: 'Meteorite List'
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Suspicious (ok, flat out fraud) Allende on
eBay

Last update - response from Kidcentavo:
"Mr. I am NOT an EXPERT on meteorites, AND the ONLY thing I have to go by is
the label that came with the rock. The owner of the shop, who sold it to me
has been in the mineral business since 1963, AND has a very GOOD reputation,
dealing with all minerals, and fossils. IF he says its an ALLEDE from
Chihuahua, then I HAVE to believe him that it is. I am NOT going to nick a
piece off of it run down to the university and PAY for an analysis to get
the exact chemical composition of the stone. Most of the other listings are
slices,of allende, EXCEPT one, that I see listed. If you think it's from
Africa, that's your opinion. Kidcentavo"

At this point, nothing more to be done that will have any effect, so all I
can say is, "caveat emptor."

Mendy

-----Original Message-----
From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy
Ouzillou
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 7:07 PM
To: 'W&S Schroer'; 'Meteorite List'
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Suspicious (ok, flat out fraud) Allende on
eBay

Yup, it was pulled for a few hours and then he put it back up. Here is his
response back to me regarding the stone's history:
I bought it from Southwestern Minerals and Gems, Albuquerque New Mexico in
2005 and it had INFORMATION card with it. i.e. what kind of meteorite it
was, where it was from, and the date of the fall along with the name of the
shop. No mention however WHO COLLECTED IT or WHEN it was collected, I do not
think the owner of the gem shop, knew that information. ANY other questions?
Kidcentavo
I have blocked him and many other suspicious eBay sellers. If you want the
list email me privately.

Mendy
-----Original Message-----
From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of W&S
Schroer
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 3:17 PM
To: Meteorite List
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Suspicious (ok, flat out fraud) Allende on
eBay

Hi Mendy,
the Allende hasn't been pulled yet. At least not here in Australia.

http://tinyurl.com/d29xruz

Cheers
Werner Schroer
Australia


-----Original Message-----
From: Mendy Ouzillou
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2012 6:50 AM
To: Mendy Ouzillou
Cc: meteorite list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Suspicious (ok, flat out fraud) Allende on
eBay

The suspicious Allende has been pulled. Looks like kidcentavo got nervous
regarding my inquiry. Adding his name to my s-hit list.

Mendy Ouzillou

On Dec 29, 2012, at 11:09 AM, "Mendy Ouzillou" <ouzillou at yahoo.com> wrote:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/157-1-gram-Allende-Carbonaceous-Chondrite-Meteorite-
from-Chihuahua-Mexico-/330850675605?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d083cab9
5
I sent him an email asking who he originally bought the specimen from. Am
curious to see his response.
Had a thought regarding fraudulent sellers on eBay. We should make a list of
these people and make sure they cannot buy specimens from us. Here is my
logic. Seems like some of these scammers buy genuine items to lend
credibility to their other not-so-genuine items listed for sale. I for one
do not want anything I sell to be used as part of someone else's fraudulent
activity. I will start putting a list together and I'll send it out to
everyone who wants it. I will block these eBayers from buying from me.
If you want to be amused by someone completely delusional, read the
description for this "moon" rock. I feel bad for Dr. Korotev for having to
put up with this kind of BS.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Meteorite-/190777042426?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkp
arms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D45038637
28672966212%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D330850675605%26
Regards,
Mendy

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