[meteorite-list] AML Huss mystery (Taiban b)

From: Mike Bandli <fuzzfoot_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:50:14 -0800
Message-ID: <003f01cdda23$78ca8060$6a5f8120$_at_comcast.net>

Hi Mendy,

What you have is indeed Taiban (b). The original Taiban (b) was found in
1975 as referenced by both Huss and the 1980 IOM catalog. The total weight
was 11.5 kg.

Now, the confusing part. MetBull list Taiban (b) as an LL6 found in 1984
with a total weight of 641 g. If we look at the original reference for this
entry (MetBull 84) we will see that this stone was reported with a group of
New Mexican finds from J.M. DuPont in 2000.

I believe the most likely scenario is that Huss' Taiban (b) was never
officially published and that DuPont's Taiban (b) is a completely different
meteorite, not paired to Huss' specimen. This would explain the different
classifications. Since there was no Taiban (b) officially listed in 2000,
Taiban (b) was assigned to DuPont's stone, even though Huss had already sold
many specimens during the 1970/80s as Taiban (b). If we could find a sample
of DuPont's material to compare, then we could solve this mystery once and
for all. (Anyone have a Taiban (b) with DuPont provenance?)

This is not the only confusing New Mexican find. These areas of eastern and
north eastern New Mexico produced many individual meteorites during the 20th
c. thanks to efforts by LaPaz, Nininger, and Huss. Some of these meteorites
weren't published until years after their finds, despite being sold as named
specimens earlier. As Bernd mentioned, LaLande and Melrose also have issues,
and there are others...

Either way, Huss' Taiban (b) from 1975 should be the correct one. If
DuPont's is not paired, then, in my opinion, it should be renamed Taiban (c)
or Taiban (1984) and the entries in the MetBull amended.

Hope that helps.

All the best,


Mike Bandli
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[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:30 PM
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Subject: [meteorite-list] AML Huss number mystery

I have an AML specimen that when I looked it up, the information on the card
did not relate to the information in the MetBul.

The card reads as follows:
Taiban (b), New Mexico
Olivine-hypersthene chondrite (L6)
Found 1975
TKW 11.5kg
Weight of specimen 6.8g
The MetBul lists both Taiban and Taiban (b), but neither are an L6, nor
found in 1975, nor have a TKW of 11.5kg. How do I identify this specimen?
By the way, the painted number and card number do match.

Any help is appreciated.



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