[meteorite-list] AML Huss mystery (Taiban b)

From: Mendy Ouzillou <ouzillou_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 10:31:19 -0800 (PST)
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You are the Meteoritic Sherlock Holmes!

Would be nice to pursue this out and clear the MetBul confusion.


?Mendy Ouzillou

> From: Mike Bandli <fuzzfoot at comcast.net>
>To: 'Mendy Ouzillou' <ouzillou at yahoo.com>; 'met-list' <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 9:50 AM
>Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] AML Huss mystery (Taiban b)
>Hi Mendy,
>What you have is indeed Taiban (b). The original Taiban (b) was found in
>1975 as referenced by both Huss and the 1980 IOM catalog. The total weight
>was 11.5 kg.
>Now, the confusing part. MetBull list Taiban (b) as an LL6 found in 1984
>with a total weight of 641 g. If we look at the original reference for this
>entry (MetBull 84) we will see that this stone was reported with a group of
>New Mexican finds from J.M. DuPont in 2000.
>I believe the most likely scenario is that Huss' Taiban (b) was never
>officially published and that DuPont's Taiban (b) is a completely different
>meteorite, not paired to Huss' specimen. This would explain the different
>classifications. Since there was no Taiban (b) officially listed in 2000,
>Taiban (b) was assigned to DuPont's stone, even though Huss had already sold
>many specimens during the 1970/80s as Taiban (b).? If we could find a sample
>of DuPont's material to compare, then we could solve this mystery once and
>for all. (Anyone have a Taiban (b) with DuPont provenance?)
>This is not the only confusing New Mexican find. These areas of eastern and
>north eastern New Mexico produced many individual meteorites during the 20th
>c. thanks to efforts by LaPaz, Nininger, and Huss. Some of these meteorites
>weren't published until years after their finds, despite being sold as named
>specimens earlier. As Bernd mentioned, LaLande and Melrose also have issues,
>and there are others...
>Either way, Huss' Taiban (b) from 1975 should be the correct one. If
>DuPont's is not paired, then, in my opinion, it should be renamed Taiban (c)
>or Taiban (1984) and the entries in the MetBull amended.
>Hope that helps.
>All the best,
>Mike Bandli
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>[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy
>Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:30 PM
>To: 'met-list'
>Subject: [meteorite-list] AML Huss number mystery
>I have an AML specimen that when I looked it up, the information on the card
>did not relate to the information in the MetBul.
>The card reads as follows:
>Taiban (b), New Mexico
>Olivine-hypersthene chondrite (L6)
>Found 1975
>TKW 11.5kg
>Weight of specimen 6.8g
>The MetBul lists both Taiban and Taiban (b), but neither are an L6, nor
>found in 1975, nor have a TKW of 11.5kg. How do I identify this specimen?
>By the way, the painted number and card number do match.
>Any help is appreciated.
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Received on Fri 14 Dec 2012 01:31:19 PM PST

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