[meteorite-list] Pojoaque Pallisite

From: Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 19:21:48 -0400
Message-ID: <CAKBPJW-hRyC5-QawqL5SvwuK6W4Razz81Bo3HT6qL2AYNRjYgw_at_mail.gmail.com>

Hi Folks,

Nininger said that the specimen had smooth areas that one would expect
if the meteorite had been rubbed up against other objects over a
period of time, such as being worn in a medicine or talisman bag. A
guess on his part, but given his expertise, it's likely he was
correct.

As Doug said, I'd really like to know where this specimen is now. It
may be just another piece of Glorieta, but the circumstances of it's
discovery and it's apparent role in a native American belief system,
gives it special status.

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 4/29/12, Regine P. <fips_bruno at yahoo.de> wrote:
> Hi Doug, Bernd and all,
>
> I too would like to know where this one is being kept. What baffles me
> though, how does one get to the conclusion the meteorite had been carried in
> a medicine bag? It doesn't sound implausible, but what are the clues? Magic
> powder topping? Is there any further info?
>
>
> Regine
>
>
>
> ----- Urspr?ngliche Message -----
>> Von: MexicoDoug <mexicodoug at aim.com>
>> An: bernd.pauli at paulinet.de; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> CC:
>> Gesendet: 23:54 Sonntag, 29.April 2012
>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Pojoaque Pallisite
>>
>> Hi Listers,
>>
>> Paired - quite likely - It has a much more interesting history than to be
>> lumped
>> as a synonym and IMO value as a named iron in its own right:
>>
>> This particular iron showed a lot of evidence of wear from human handling
>> and
>> Nininger supported Mera's suggestion that it was carried in a medicine
>> pouch
>> in Pojoaque, which makes a triangle geographically, roughly, with Santa
>> Fe,
>> Glorieta, Mountain locality and Pojoaque pueble.  According to the
>> circumstances
>> of the fine, it was found inside some old pottery during excavations at
>> the
>> Pueblo, i.e., protected, and exhibited beautiful flow lines and notable
>> bluish
>> fresh fusion crust, indicating it was a reasonable possibility that
>> whoever
>> found it saw it fall.  As it was found during excavations, it raises the
>> possibility of using this to date the Glorieta Mountain fall.
>>
>> It would be nice to know where this meteorite is now.  Did it make it to
>> New
>> Mexico's collection?  Nininger, in 1931, saw it in Santa Fe, specifically
>> in
>> the "Department of Anthropology", where Mera may have been working.
>> But someone else needs to sleuth a bit further from here because I sure
>> don't know where it is now, and it would be great to see it in its present
>>
>> condition ;-), as it was cut up a bit because Nininger and others used it
>> to
>> argue that Glorieta Mountain wasn't a siderite, but a sidero-pallasite
>> combination as well as consolidate some of the names Bernd lists ... I
>> think the
>> paper was 1940.
>>
>> Definitely a specimen with a very special, if not sacred, history ...
>>
>> Kindest wishes
>> Doug
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bernd V. Pauli <bernd.pauli at paulinet.de>
>> To: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Sun, Apr 29, 2012 5:03 pm
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Pojoaque Pallisite
>>
>>
>> Hello Jeff, Mike, David and List,
>>
>> David wrote: "It is indeed the synonym for Glorieta"
>>
>> ... and only one out of several others:
>>
>> Albuquerque
>> Canoncito
>> Glorieta
>> Pojoaque
>> Rio Arriba
>> Santa Fe
>> Santa Fe County
>> Trinity County
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bernd
>>
>>
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