[meteorite-list] High Noon!

From: John Hendry <pict_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 17:14:03 -0500
Message-ID: <CA8C051D.114D3%pict_at_pict.co.uk>

He has an explanation elsewhere in the auction text?

"Keep in mind, too, that the "negative symbol" merely means "less-than."
(Example: "Ag (-7)" means that Ag (Silver) is detected, and there is more
than 6ppm, but less than 7ppm)."

Regards,
John



On 06/09/2011 16:30, "MexicoDoug" <mexicodoug at aim.com> wrote:

>Hi Steve,
>
>I have a question about your data, which seem highly strabismal :
>
>Silver, Gold and Palladium seem to all be listed by you as negative
>concentrations; could you be kind enough to explain this odd claim /
>data? Because if there isn't a good explanation, the only conclusion
>is that the tests you are doing are returning gibberish or instrumental
>artifacts ... and cannot provide any support for your beliefs in
>extraterrestrial sources.
>
>Kindest wishes, Doug
>
>Steve wrote:
>
>"...elemental PPM's (Parts-per-Million). ...
>
>Specimen #1: (394 grams) As posted on Ebay: Au (-9), Pt (29), Ag (-6),
>Pd (-6), Fe (5,575), Zr (138), Sr (606), Rb (54), Pb (26), Zn (20), Cu
>(156), Ni (66), Co (114), Ba (582), Cs (310).
>
>Specimen #2: (6.0kgs); Au (-9), Pt (41), Ag (-7), Pd (-7), Fe (10.4K),
>Zr (180), Sr (491), Rb (69), Th (9), Pb (62), Ni (65), Co (240), Mn
>(4,402), Ba (998), Cs (151)."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Curry <cwheileg at gmail.com>
>To: wahlperry <wahlperry at aol.com>; Walter L. Newton
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>Moto Ito <ito at lpi.usra.edu>; Tomasz Jakubowski <illaenus at wp.pl>; Ian A.
>Franchi <I.A.Franchi at open.ac.uk>; Zeus Crankypants
><zeus.crankypants at yahoo.com>; Catherine (Cari) Corrigan
><corriganc at si.edu>; Matthew Benjamin <matthew.benjamin at colorado.edu>;
>lebofsky <lebofsky at lpl.arizona.edu>
>Sent: Tue, Sep 6, 2011 12:24 pm
>Subject: High Noon!
>
>
>Hi Boys & Girls; You've all had a wonderful time, over past couple of
>years, in trying to denounce my research, attacking my integrity,
>defaming my character, and, most importantly, making absolute fools of
>yourselves! I've allowed this, and I've exhibited a great deal of
>tolerance for your highly unprofessional, and grossly unethical
>behavior, but, I will not tolerate your abuse of my family, friends,
>and business colleagues. YOU HAVE CROSSED THE LINE FOR THE LAST TIME!!
> As an organization, that explicitly demands behavior above & beyond
>reproach, it is quite apparent, that the IMCA does not enforce its own
>policies. Each & every member of this organization needs to hang their
>heads low, in shame, for allowing the Administration of the IMCA to
>engage, support, and condone this type of behavior by its membership.
> This is not to say, that all members of the IMCA, exhibit this
>abhorrent behavior. I trust, that there are many members of high
>integrity, honesty, sincerity, and commitment to the many sciences
>surrounding meteoritics. To those members, I ask that you take a stand
>against those members, who have treated this organization with such
>selfish disdain, and disregard of its charter.
>
>
> IMCA member, Adam Hupe, recently raised a flag of protest, over my
>use of the term, "NWA 5000," in comparing our "Uncompahgre Lunar
>Feldspathic Breccia" meteorite to his prized possession, purchased from
>a Moroccan dealer. Mr. Hupe seems to think the "NWA 5000" is, somehow,
>a title deserving of a Trademark! For starters, "Northwest Africa" is
>by geographical location & description, in "Public Domain!" "5000" is
>merely an integer, or number, and cannot be trademarked. It, too, is
>considered "Public Domain!" The US Trademark Office would, simply,
>laugh at Mr. Hupe's submission. It would not get any more embarrassing
>for Mr. Hupe, than this!
>
>
> If Mr. Hupe, and other IMCA members, would like to end this, once
>and for all, here is my challenge, and I will not accept any
>substitutions, alterations, or changes, to this challenge. You can,
>also, trust, that this challenge this will be fair, and without bias,
>or prejudice. Unlike you folks, I play by the rules, and I play fair,
>and honestly! You can trust, too, that the stakes are extremely high!
>
>
> Just for sport, I'm going to name this game, "HIGH NOON IN WESTERN
>COLORADO!"..........Even though, this dual will be held in the evening.
> I am giving a meteorite lecture & seminar at the Delta County
>Library, on September 20, 2011, _at_ 6:00pm. If Mr. Hupe can trust his
>fellow IMCA member, Blaine Reed, Mr. Hupe is to send a specimen sample
>of the "NWA 5000" to Mr. Reed. Mr. Blain Reed must show up at this
>lecture, armed with his new toy, as in his XRF hand-held analyzer. I,
>too, will show up with our XRF hand-held analyzer, which will be
>operated by an experienced geologist from Western Colorado.
> Mr. Reed, and our geologist, will conduct XRF analysis on both the
>"NWA 5000," and our "Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia." Both
>stones will be analyzed using the "Precious Metal Mode," and the
>"Prospector Mode," which will produce elemental percentages, and
>elemental PPM's (Parts-per-Million). The results from Mr. Reed, and
>our geologist, will be recorded by a officer from the Delta County
>Sheriff's office, which is next door to the library.
> The analysis will, then, be compared by a jury of 12 men & women, in
>our audience, to those figures obtained from NASA's Apollo Lunar Sample
>Atlas, and the Lunar & Planetary Institute's "Lunar Meteorite
>Compendium." Comparisons will be acceptable, should the results of the
>analysis 's within +(-) 5% of NASA's, and LPI's elemental chemistry,
>posted on these official sites. The Delta County Sheriff will review &
>tally the decisions of the 12 jurors, and confirm their findings.
> Once the findings are tallied and authenticated, the Sheriff will
>pronounce the decision of these jurors. Should it be found, that our
>"Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia" is, in fact, a similar match to
>Mr. Hupe's "NWA 5000," and similar to the data published on the NASA,
>and LPI website, I will demand that the following individuals put their
>reputations & careers where their mouths have been!
>
>
>1). Mr. Hupe, will, within 72 hours of being advised of the Sheriff's
>announcement, submit a "Public Letter of Apology," to Mr. Curry, his
>family, and colleagues. Mr. Hupe will, then, submit a "Letter of
>Resignation" to the IMCA, effective IMMEDIATELY! Mr. Hupe will, also,
>issue an "Affidavit," stating that he will never, ever, sell, buy,
>trade, or barter meteorites in the United States, or elsewhere, for as
>long as he may live!
>2). Anne Black, the current President of the IMCA, will tender her
>resignation with the IMCA; prepare, sign, and publicly post a similar
>affidavit, stating that she will never, ever, sell, buy, barter, or
>trade meteorites in the United States, or elsewhere, for as long as she
>may live!
>3). Maria Haas, the current Treasurer of the IMCA, will tender her
>resignation with the IMCA, prepare, sign, and publicly post a similar
>affidavit, stating, that she will never, ever, sell, buy, barter, or
>trade meteorites in the United States, or elsewhere, for as long as she
>may live!
>4). Mr. Blaine Reed, an IMCA member, will, without hesitation, tender
>his resignation with the IMCA, prepare, sign, and publicly post a
>similar affidavit, stating, that he will never, ever, sell, buy,
>barter, or trade meteorites, in the United States, or elsewhere, for as
>long as he may live!
>5). The following members, or affiliates of the IMCA, will tender
>their resignations with the IMCA, effective immediately! These
>members, and/or affiliates, will also prepare, sign, and publicly post
>"Letters of Apologies" to Mr. Curry, his family, and colleagues. They
>will, also, tender similar affidavits, stating, that they will never,
>ever, sell, buy, barter, or trade meteorites in the United States, or
>elsewhere, for as long as they may live!
>A). Michael Blood, San Diego; Walter Newton, Conifer, CO; Sonny Clary,
>Las Vegas, NV; Geoff Notkin, Tucson, AZ, Steve Arnold, Fayetteville,
>AR; Matt Morgan, Denver, CO; Steve Arnold, Chicago, IL; Count Deiro,
>Los Angeles, CA; Sterling Webb, UKN; Walter Perry, UKN; and Ken Newton,
>(a.k.a "Magellon"), UKN.
>6). Surviving members of the IMCA will demand a purge of all members
>associated with any attacks upon Mr. Curry's integrity, character, and
>research! These members will demand a full-scale restructuring of the
>IMCA to the high standards set in the original charter of this
>organization.
>7). The following scientists, having collaborated with, consorted
>with, and confederated with IMCA members to unfairly control the market
>place, and the actual supply of genuine & authenticatable meteorites;
>particularly Lunar meteorites, will tender their resignations to their
>home universities; effective immediately. These scientists will,
>without hesitation, tender "Letters of Apology," to Mr. Curry, his
>family, and colleagues. These scientists will, also, prepare, sign,
>and publicly post similar affidavits, stating, that they will never,
>ever, analyze another meteorite in the United States, or elsewhere, for
>as long as they may live!
>
>
> Dr. Randy Korotev, WUSTL; Dr. Carl Agee, UNM; Dr. Lawrence Garvie,
>ASU, Dr. Alex Ruzika, Cascadia Meteorite Lab, Portland State
>University, Dr. John T. Wasson, UCLA, Dr. Alan Rubin, UCLA, Dr. Michael
>Zolensky, NASA's JSC, Dr. Timothy McCoy, Smithsonian Institute; Dr.
>Arthur Elmann, TCU; Dr. Rainer Newberry, UA at Fairbanks; Dr. Chris
>Peterson, Caltech/Denver Museum of Nature & Science; Dr. Theodore
>Bunch, NAU; Dr. John Wittke, NAU; and Melinda Hutson, Cascadia
>Meteorite Lab, Portland State University.
>
>
> Should it be found, that our "Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic
>Breccia" does not match, in any way, shape, or form, to Mr. Hupe's "NWA
>5000," or to that of the Apollo Lunar Samples of Feldspathic Breccias,
>or meteorites posted with the Lunar & Planetary Institute's "Lunar
>Meteorite Compendium," Mr. Curry will, without hesitation, close his
>Ebay posting of the "Uncompahgre Lunar Meteorite," permanently, and
>forever. Mr. Curry will also initiate a "Public Letter of Apology" to
>Mr. Hupe, members of the IMCA, and to above named scientists.
>
>
>IMPORTANT NOTE: The decision to engage, or not to engage, in this
>"invitation to participate" in this "High Noon in Western Colorado,"
>will not be a joint decision of the IMCA members, nor made by the above
>scientists. The decision will be made by one individual, and one
>individual, only! That, one, individual will be Mr. Adam Hupe! Mr.
>Hupe will be held responsible, and accountable for, all consequences of
>his actions, or inactions! This includes any & all complaints, and all
>attempts of litigation, stemming from Mr. Hupe's decision!
> Should Mr. Hupe decide not to engage in this "Scientific XRF Duel,"
>Mr. Curry will consider his work, research, character, and integrity
>vindicated and exonerated. By "default," Mr. Hupe, the involved
>members of the IMCA, and the listed scientists, will be bound by this
>"default," to issue "Letters of Apology" to Mr. Curry, and tender
>affidavits, stating they will "cease & desist" their operations of all
>sales, trades, barters, and purchases of meteorites, for as long as
>they may live! They will, also, be bound by this "default," to tender
>their resignations to the IMCA, effective immediately!
> The listed scientists will, also, be bound by this "default," and
>will sign & issue an affidavit, stating that they will never, again,
>analyze another meteorite, for as long as they may live! These
>scientists will, also, tender their resignations with their parent
>universities.
>
>
> In all fairness to Mr. Hupe, and knowing that he is not a scientist,
>I will offer the following "evidence," clearly indicating that our
>"Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia" is, not only, of
>extraterrestrial origins, but, it is of Lunar origins; as described &
>published by a number of "esteemed" scientists. For those individuals
>who need to see Ni, in a specimen, in order to classify the specimen as
>extraterrestrial, I've highlighted these just for you!
> As an alternative, or option, in accepting, or declining my
>challenge, Mr. Hupe is welcome to bid on, or purchase one, or both, of
>these specimens, at the current retail price listed on my Ebay
>postings. All transactions must be completed through Ebay channels, so
>if Mr. Hupe, or anyone else, is interested in the 6.0kg "Uncompahgre
>Lunar Feldspathic Breccia," just let me know, and I will get it posted!
>
>
>Specimen #1: (394 grams) As posted on Ebay: Au (-9), Pt (29), Ag (-6),
>Pd (-6), Fe (5,575), Zr (138), Sr (606), Rb (54), Pb (26), Zn (20), Cu
>(156), Ni (66), Co (114), Ba (582), Cs (310).
>
>
>Specimen #2: (6.0kgs); Au (-9), Pt (41), Ag (-7), Pd (-7), Fe (10.4K),
>Zr (180), Sr (491), Rb (69), Th (9), Pb (62), Ni (65), Co (240), Mn
>(4,402), Ba (998), Cs (151).
>
>
> For Mr. Hupe, and for those who may need assistance in recognizing
>extraterrestrial debris, as in meteorites, I am providing the following
>link for your perusal, and continuing education. It is obvious, that
>most IMCA members, could use a bit of continuing education!
>
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_mining
>
>
>
>Cheers & Bona Petite!
>Steve
>
>
>
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