[meteorite-list] High Noon!
From: MexicoDoug <mexicodoug_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 17:30:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8CE3AF35123DA86-1A8C-93768_at_webmail-d178.sysops.aol.com> Hi Steve, I have a question about your data, which seem highly strabismal : Silver, Gold and Palladium seem to all be listed by you as negative concentrations; could you be kind enough to explain this odd claim / data? Because if there isn't a good explanation, the only conclusion is that the tests you are doing are returning gibberish or instrumental artifacts ... and cannot provide any support for your beliefs in extraterrestrial sources. Kindest wishes, Doug Steve wrote: "...elemental PPM's (Parts-per-Million). ... Specimen #1: (394 grams) As posted on Ebay: Au (-9), Pt (29), Ag (-6), Pd (-6), Fe (5,575), Zr (138), Sr (606), Rb (54), Pb (26), Zn (20), Cu (156), Ni (66), Co (114), Ba (582), Cs (310). Specimen #2: (6.0kgs); Au (-9), Pt (41), Ag (-7), Pd (-7), Fe (10.4K), Zr (180), Sr (491), Rb (69), Th (9), Pb (62), Ni (65), Co (240), Mn (4,402), Ba (998), Cs (151)." -----Original Message----- From: Steve Curry <cwheileg at gmail.com> To: wahlperry <wahlperry at aol.com>; Walter L. Newton <newton at acrossthebow.com>; mexicodoug <mexicodoug at aim.com>; countdeiro <countdeiro at earthlink.net>; daistiho <daistiho at hotmail.com>; stlouismeteorites <stlouismeteorites at gmail.com>; raremeteorites <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>; meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; JoshuaTreeMuseum <joshuatreemuseum at embarqmail.com>; yeomega <yeomega at gmail.com>; mikestang <mikestang at gmail.com>; star_wars_collector <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>; gmhupe <gmhupe at centurylink.net>; daniel_wray <daniel_wray at comcast.net>; sterling_k_webb <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>; stevenarnold60120 <stevenarnold60120 at yahoo.com>; axolotyis <axolotyis at gmail.com>; Randy Korotev <korotev at wustl.edu>; Randy L. Korotev <rlk at levee.wustl.edu>; John Wasson <jtwasson at ucla.edu>; James Wittke <James.Wittke at nau.edu>; Roger Warin <roger.warin at skynet.be>; Ken Newton <magellon.ken at gmail.com>; Stuart McDaniel <actionshooting at carolina.rr.com>; Dr. Michael Zolensky <michael.e.zolensky at nasa.gov>; Dr. Timothy McCoy <mccoyt at si.edu>; Maria Haas <dragonsoup at msn.com>; Anne Black <IMPACTIKA at AOL.COM>; Carl Agee <agee at unm.edu>; Chris A. Peterson <prpdc at higp.hawaii.edu>; Dr. Alex Ruzicka <ruzickaa at pdx.edu>; Tim Stout <tim_97124 at yahoo.com>; Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>; kevin.righter-1 <kevin.righter-1 at nasa.gov>; Rainer Newberry <rjnewberry at alaska.edu>; Ted Bunch <tbear1 at cableone.net>; ontheroad <ontheroad at usairborne.com>; Moto Ito <ito at lpi.usra.edu>; Tomasz Jakubowski <illaenus at wp.pl>; Ian A. Franchi <I.A.Franchi at open.ac.uk>; Zeus Crankypants <zeus.crankypants at yahoo.com>; Catherine (Cari) Corrigan <corriganc at si.edu>; Matthew Benjamin <matthew.benjamin at colorado.edu>; lebofsky <lebofsky at lpl.arizona.edu> Sent: Tue, Sep 6, 2011 12:24 pm Subject: High Noon! Hi Boys & Girls; ?You've all had a wonderful time, over past couple of years, in trying to denounce my research, attacking my integrity, defaming my character, and, most importantly, making absolute fools of yourselves! ?I've allowed this, and I've exhibited a great deal of tolerance for your highly unprofessional, and grossly unethical behavior, but, I will not tolerate your abuse of my family, friends, and business colleagues. ?YOU HAVE CROSSED THE LINE FOR THE LAST TIME!!? ?? ?As an organization, that explicitly demands behavior above & beyond reproach, it is quite apparent, that the IMCA does not enforce its own policies. ?Each & every member of this organization needs to hang their heads low, in shame, for allowing the Administration of the IMCA to engage, support, and condone this type of behavior by its membership. ?? ?This is not to say, that all members of the IMCA, exhibit this abhorrent behavior. ?I trust, that there are many members of high integrity, honesty, sincerity, and commitment to the many sciences surrounding meteoritics. ?To those members, I ask that you take a stand against those members, who have treated this organization with such selfish disdain, and disregard of its charter. ?? ?IMCA member, Adam Hupe, recently raised a flag of protest, over my use of the term, "NWA 5000," in comparing our "Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia" meteorite to his prized possession, purchased from a Moroccan dealer. ?Mr. Hupe seems to think the "NWA 5000" is, somehow, a title deserving of a Trademark! ?For starters, "Northwest Africa" is by geographical location & description, in "Public Domain!" ?"5000" is merely an integer, or number, and cannot be trademarked. ?It, too, is considered "Public Domain!" ?The US Trademark Office would, simply, laugh at Mr. Hupe's submission. ?It would not get any more embarrassing for Mr. Hupe, than this! ?? If Mr. Hupe, and other IMCA members, would like to end this, once and for all, here is my challenge, and I will not accept any substitutions, alterations, or changes, to this challenge. ?You can, also, trust, that this challenge this will be fair, and without bias, or prejudice. ?Unlike you folks, I play by the rules, and I play fair, and honestly! ?You can trust, too, that the stakes are extremely high! ?? ?Just for sport, I'm going to name this game, "HIGH NOON IN WESTERN COLORADO!"..........Even though, this dual will be held in the evening. ?? ?I am giving a meteorite lecture & seminar at the Delta County Library, on September 20, 2011, _at_ 6:00pm. ?If Mr. Hupe can trust his fellow IMCA member, Blaine Reed, Mr. Hupe is to send a specimen sample of the "NWA 5000" to Mr. Reed. ?Mr. Blain Reed must show up at this lecture, armed with his new toy, as in his XRF hand-held analyzer. ?I, too, will show up with our XRF hand-held analyzer, which will be operated by an experienced geologist from Western Colorado. ?? Mr. Reed, and our geologist, will conduct XRF analysis on both the "NWA 5000," and our "Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia." ?Both stones will be analyzed using the "Precious Metal Mode," and the "Prospector Mode," which will produce elemental percentages, and elemental PPM's (Parts-per-Million). ?The results from Mr. Reed, and our geologist, will be recorded by a officer from the Delta County Sheriff's office, which is next door to the library. ? ?? The analysis will, then, be compared by a jury of 12 men & women, in our audience, to those figures obtained from NASA's Apollo Lunar Sample Atlas, and the Lunar & Planetary Institute's "Lunar Meteorite Compendium." ?Comparisons will be acceptable, should the results of the analysis 's within +(-) 5% of NASA's, and LPI's elemental chemistry, posted on these official sites. ?The Delta County Sheriff will review & tally the decisions of the 12 jurors, and confirm their findings. ?? Once the findings are tallied and authenticated, the Sheriff will pronounce the decision of these jurors. ?Should it be found, that our "Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia" is, in fact, a similar match to Mr. Hupe's "NWA 5000," and similar to the data published on the NASA, and LPI website, I will demand that the following individuals put their reputations & careers where their mouths have been! 1). ?Mr. Hupe, will, within 72 hours of being advised of the Sheriff's announcement, submit a "Public Letter of Apology," to Mr. Curry, his family, and colleagues. ?Mr. Hupe will, then, submit a "Letter of Resignation" to the IMCA, effective IMMEDIATELY! ?Mr. Hupe will, also, issue an "Affidavit," stating that he will never, ever, sell, buy, trade, or barter meteorites in the United States, or elsewhere, for as long as he may live! 2). ?Anne Black, the current President of the IMCA, will tender her resignation with the IMCA; prepare, sign, and publicly post a similar affidavit, stating that she will never, ever, sell, buy, barter, or trade meteorites in the United States, or elsewhere, for as long as she may live! 3). ?Maria Haas, the current Treasurer of the IMCA, will tender her resignation with the IMCA, prepare, sign, and publicly post a similar affidavit, stating, that she will never, ever, sell, buy, barter, or trade meteorites in the United States, or elsewhere, for as long as she may live! 4). ?Mr. Blaine Reed, an IMCA member, will, without hesitation, tender his resignation with the IMCA, prepare, sign, and publicly post a similar affidavit, stating, that he will never, ever, sell, buy, barter, or trade meteorites, in the United States, or elsewhere, for as long as he may live! 5). ?The following members, or affiliates of the IMCA, will tender their resignations with the IMCA, effective immediately! ?These members, and/or affiliates, will also prepare, sign, and publicly post "Letters of Apologies" to Mr. Curry, his family, and colleagues. ?They will, also, tender similar affidavits, stating, that they will never, ever, sell, buy, barter, or trade meteorites in the United States, or elsewhere, for as long as they may live! A). ?Michael Blood, San Diego; Walter Newton, Conifer, CO; Sonny Clary, Las Vegas, NV; Geoff Notkin, Tucson, AZ, Steve Arnold, Fayetteville, AR; Matt Morgan, Denver, CO; Steve Arnold, Chicago, IL; Count Deiro, Los Angeles, CA; Sterling Webb, UKN; Walter Perry, UKN; and Ken Newton, (a.k.a "Magellon"), UKN. 6). ?Surviving members of the IMCA will demand a purge of all members associated with any attacks upon Mr. Curry's integrity, character, and research! ?These members will demand a full-scale restructuring of the IMCA to the high standards set in the original charter of this organization. 7). ?The following scientists, having collaborated with, consorted with, and confederated with IMCA members to unfairly control the market place, and the actual supply of genuine & authenticatable meteorites; particularly Lunar meteorites, will tender their resignations to their home universities; effective immediately. ?These scientists will, without hesitation, tender "Letters of Apology," to Mr. Curry, his family, and colleagues. ?These scientists will, also, prepare, sign, and publicly post similar affidavits, stating, that they will never, ever, analyze another meteorite in the United States, or elsewhere, for as long as they may live! ?? Dr. Randy Korotev, WUSTL; Dr. Carl Agee, UNM; Dr. Lawrence Garvie, ASU, Dr. Alex Ruzika, Cascadia Meteorite Lab, Portland State University, Dr. John T. Wasson, UCLA, Dr. Alan Rubin, UCLA, Dr. Michael Zolensky, NASA's JSC, Dr. Timothy McCoy, Smithsonian Institute; Dr. Arthur Elmann, TCU; Dr. Rainer Newberry, UA at Fairbanks; Dr. Chris Peterson, Caltech/Denver Museum of Nature & Science; Dr. Theodore Bunch, NAU; Dr. John Wittke, NAU; and Melinda Hutson, Cascadia Meteorite Lab, Portland State University. ?? ?Should it be found, that our "Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia" does not match, in any way, shape, or form, to Mr. Hupe's "NWA 5000," or to that of the Apollo Lunar Samples of Feldspathic Breccias, or meteorites posted with the Lunar & Planetary Institute's "Lunar Meteorite Compendium," Mr. Curry will, without hesitation, close his Ebay posting of the "Uncompahgre Lunar Meteorite," permanently, and forever. ?Mr. Curry will also initiate a "Public Letter of Apology" to Mr. Hupe, members of the IMCA, and to above named scientists. IMPORTANT NOTE: ?The decision to engage, or not to engage, in this "invitation to participate" in this "High Noon in Western Colorado," will not be a joint decision of the IMCA members, nor made by the above scientists. ?The decision will be made by one individual, and one individual, only! ?That, one, individual will be Mr. Adam Hupe! ?Mr. Hupe will be held responsible, and accountable for, all consequences of his actions, or inactions! ?This includes any & all complaints, and all attempts of litigation, stemming from Mr. Hupe's decision! ? ?? ?Should Mr. Hupe decide not to engage in this "Scientific XRF Duel," Mr. Curry will consider his work, research, character, and integrity vindicated and exonerated. ?By "default," Mr. Hupe, the involved members of the IMCA, and the listed scientists, will be bound by this "default," to issue "Letters of Apology" to Mr. Curry, and tender affidavits, stating they will "cease & desist" their operations of all sales, trades, barters, and purchases of meteorites, for as long as they may live! ?They will, also, be bound by this "default," to tender their resignations to the IMCA, effective immediately! ? ?? The listed scientists will, also, be bound by this "default," and will sign & issue an affidavit, stating that they will never, again, analyze another meteorite, for as long as they may live! ?These scientists will, also, tender their resignations with their parent universities. ?? In all fairness to Mr. Hupe, and knowing that he is not a scientist, I will offer the following "evidence," clearly indicating that our "Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia" is, not only, of extraterrestrial origins, but, it is of Lunar origins; as described & published by a number of "esteemed" scientists. ?For those individuals who need to see Ni, in a specimen, in order to classify the specimen as extraterrestrial, I've highlighted these just for you! ?? As an alternative, or option, in accepting, or declining my challenge, Mr. Hupe is welcome to bid on, or purchase one, or both, of these specimens, at the current retail price listed on my Ebay postings. ?All transactions must be completed through Ebay channels, so if Mr. Hupe, or anyone else, is interested in the 6.0kg "Uncompahgre Lunar Feldspathic Breccia," just let me know, and I will get it posted! Specimen #1: (394 grams) As posted on Ebay: Au (-9), Pt (29), Ag (-6), Pd (-6), Fe (5,575), Zr (138), Sr (606), Rb (54), Pb (26), Zn (20), Cu (156), Ni (66), Co (114), Ba (582), Cs (310). Specimen #2: (6.0kgs); Au (-9), Pt (41), Ag (-7), Pd (-7), Fe (10.4K), Zr (180), Sr (491), Rb (69), Th (9), Pb (62), Ni (65), Co (240), Mn (4,402), Ba (998), Cs (151). ?? For Mr. Hupe, and for those who may need assistance in recognizing extraterrestrial debris, as in meteorites, I am providing the following link for your perusal, and continuing education. ?It is obvious, that most IMCA members, could use a bit of continuing education! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_mining ? Cheers & Bona Petite! Steve ? Received on Tue 06 Sep 2011 05:30:22 PM PDT |
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