[meteorite-list] Mifflin, WHAT is Amiss

From: Zelimir.Gabelica at uha.fr <Zelimir.Gabelica_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 14:45:50 +0200
Message-ID: <20110509144550.kxlcajdh2r4oo040_at_www.mail.uha.fr>

List, Habib,

....and "Darkangel" will also give in Ensisheim a talk describing his method.

I am right now personally involved with "Darkangel" (whom we here also
use to call "Magnetix" though his name is Guy Verlooven) in many
experiments to test his method with hundreds of certified meteorites,
including my 6.3 g full slice of Mifflin (got from Larry Atkins and
fully documented).

Details on these Ensi activities here:

http://www.meteorite2011.karamako.net
(click on "English flyer")

Best wishes (after another 10 days of mail link logout)

Zelimir (initials really needed ?)


Habib Gupta <faustoguilherme at gmail.com> a ??crit??:

> Hello all!
>
> One of the members of the french speaking meteorite forum (
> http://meteorites.superforum.fr/forum ), conceived an instrument
> based on the magnetic susceptibility of the meteorites that can
> easily distinguish between an H and an L chondrite.
>
> It only needs a flat surface of 15 mm of diameter to work. It can be
> a "window" cut or some flat area of the crust (not uncommon, right?)
> So, even fully crusted stones can be tested!
>
> Nice, isn't it?
>
> It can even tell apart or "pair" stones.
>
> The great advantage is that it is a non-destructive test.
>
> As the member of the forum has the pseudo Darkangel, his instrument
> is likely to be called "Darkometer" :)
>
> Darkangel and his "Darkometer" will be at the Ensishein fair,
> performing tests to demonstrate the utility of such device.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Saludos!
>
> Sanscelerien
>
> On 08-05-2011 21:36, Michael Blood wrote:
>> Re Mifflin,
>> I Bought a hand full of small specimens on ebay
>> that were nothing more than hot rocks. It pissed me off,
>> but I figured the guy was a dumb ass rather that fraudulent
>> and just threw them away. It wasn't worth going through
>> PayPal procedures.
>> Someone said the Joe Kerchner issue should be solved
>> By a photo in situ next to a GPS unit. Well, that is not how
>> All hunters process finds. One should not be REQUIRED to
>> Purchase a GPS unit and digital camera to find meteorites.
>> AND it is unreasonable to expect
>> Someone to PROVE innocence. Prove guilt if that is your
>> Thing, but asking someone to prove they are innocent is
>> Not how we do things in the ol' U S of A.
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On 5/8/11 9:06 AM, "Adam Hupe"<raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> When purchasing artifacts, I learned that the more lengthy a seller's
>>> explanation is, the more likely you are dealing with a fraudster. When the
>>> story is long-winded as is the case with this bogus Mifflin, I immediately
>>> become cautious. It is rare for dealers of genuine artifacts to go
>>> into more
>>> detail than is necessary. The truth is much easier to tell than a lie and
>>> doesn't require senseless backup explanations. In this day and
>>> age, why would
>>> anybody deal with somebody they have never met and send cash to a P.O. Box
>>> without first receiving the product?
>>>
>>>
>>> Nobody likes to cut completely crusted stones so it is difficult
>>> to asses what
>>> lays under a fresh fusion crust. A magnet might help a little bit.
>>> It really
>>> is
>>>
>>> a matter of trust and it seems this trust is being violated
>>> frequently these
>>> days when it comes to falls.
>>>
>>> It is not fair to the people in the field spending hundreds of
>>> hours finding
>>> legitimate stones to have some con artist purchase pieces for
>>> 1/100th the cost
>>> and
>>>
>>> then passing them off as a different fall. The meteorite fall market is so
>>> thin, one
>>>
>>> counterfeit can do widespread damage. Now some collectors will
>>> question the
>>> authenticity of their Mifflin pieces and other recent falls unless
>>> they know
>>> the
>>>
>>> exact circumstances of where the meteorite was found and by whom.
>>>
>>> It is too bad a few Filthy, Greedy, Con-Artists have infiltrated this
>>> semi-exclusive market which is based on trust!
>>>
>>> The buck stops with the person that initially brought these
>>> phoneys to market.
>>> Time to take out the trash!
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
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>> Mark Twain
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>> 2. Whenever you're right, shut up.
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>>
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