[meteorite-list] Point of Diminishing returns (Slice thickness)?

From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 18:19:14 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <718214.4144.qm_at_web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Michael made the Comment:

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If you can buy high fat ground beef for $2/lb or excellent
Ribeye stakes for $4/lb, which are YOU going to buy? I'll take
The Ribeye every stinking time.
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But if you are starving and have to feed multiple people in this poor economy,
most would opt for the ground beef. That is the problem, most are not willing
or cannot afford to pay twice as much for a 1mm slice for example. This leaves
the preparer with a tough decision. They have to balance the needs of the
collector with the issue of cutting/polishing loss when a buyer is not willing
or able to pay twice as much. In this poor economy, most are looking at the
price per gram. Michael, you illustrated this perfectly by comparing a commodity
like beef with meteorites. Same for the guy running the auction, if you want
cheese he states "go to a deli." I do not agree at all with the guy running the
auctions without weights listed. This is pertinent information as with diamonds
where the weight is very important. And... Diamonds are a commodity

Best Regards,

Adam
 





----- Original Message ----
From: John L <jl at hc.fdn.com>
To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 5:33:14 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Point of Diminishing returns (Slice thickness)?


Michael and All,

A 2mm Ribeye, draped over a 100 watt light bulb for 43 seconds turns out
perfect.
Micheal's words "habitual ways of thinking" may just boil down to (in my
opinion only) a natural transition from a new collector to a more seasoned
collector. When someone decides to begin collecting meteorites, for whatever
reason, and is trying to explain to family and friends about his/her new
venture--it just wouldn't work to show them your newest .006gm micro (this
is an extreme example) and expect them to look at it for more than 20
seconds but when you hand them any iron and EVERY single time they exclaim
"wow that's heavy for it's size"--now you have their interest and they want
to see more and most important they're more prone to listening to you about
your new hobby.

In my circles, i'm trying to get everyone i know to buy the biggest Campo
they can afford and learn & educate yourself. Hopefuly, one of them will,
one day, have the knowledge that you guys/gals have. Everyone starts
somewhere.

Personally, i'm on the side of as aesthetics and given the choice of a 4mm
vs a 2mm, i would probably take the 2mm-if it was a more revealing piece.
My true love is TS's and i have about another 40+ to post to the Eom. To me
it's like looking into the sole of the universe.

And that's my 3 oz's of Ribeye fat

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Blood" <mlblood at cox.net>
To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>; "Meteorite List"
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Point of Diminishing returns (Slice
thickness)?


> Good points, Adam,
> However, the collectors who are blind to any pricing
> Elements but weight are NOT getting the best deals at all.
> I sell the same way I collect.... Good is good and to me
> How a specimen looks if far more important than mass.
> Do I prefer a bigger specimen over a smaller specimen?
> Of course, but I do not prefer a thicker slice over a thinner
> Slice at all. If one is 4g and the other is 1.2g and the surface
> Area is larger on the 1.2g and the price is the same, I will take
> The 1.2 thinner slice with more surface area every stinking time.
> If you can buy high fat ground beef for $2/lb or excellent
> Ribeye stakes for $4/lb, which are YOU going to buy? I'll take
> The Ribeye every stinking time.
> I believe collectors are STARTING to get the point that
> It is NOT the weight that is most important, but the visual
> Quality that matters. Every Tucson Show for the last several
> Years I have seen some screaming specimens sold for 4, 10 or
> 100 times the "normal" price per gram. I have bought some of
> Them, myself.
> I am always amazed that though I am certain the average
> Meteorite collector has a substantially higher IQ than the
> Public norm, so many of them are attached to narrow ways of
> Thinking. However, any smart individual will eventually overcome
> Habitual ways of thinking when repeatedly exposed to the logical
> advantages of other ways of looking at things.
> Michael
>
> On 3/7/11 3:38 PM, "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Most collectors go by the price per gram first so dealers who cut
>> ultra-thin
>> will take a loss when weight is the main consideration. I know that the
>> weight-to-surface area ratio is a secondary consideration for most
>> collectors
>> due to experience.
>>
>> There are other factors like a decent polish being applied, proper
>> preparation
>> and specimen status including provenance that can affect price.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Adam
>
>
>
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