[meteorite-list] Pat's Stabilizing Process {was: The trials...}

From: Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 12:52:27 -0500
Message-ID: <AANLkTikN8mb_C=c1ps_u48MxR2Bkgab29t4TbAL-Opqu_at_mail.gmail.com>

LOL! There must be something in kid sweat that retards rust! :)



On 2/22/11, Anita Westlake <anitawestlake at att.net> wrote:
> Sounds to me like the solution is to let little kids handle your rusters
> with
> their sweaty little hands!
> Anita
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
> To: Greg Hupe <gmhupe at centurylink.net>
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 11:12:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pat's Stabilizing Process {was: The trials...}
>
> Hi Greg and List,
>
> You won't regret contacting Pat. I'm not saying that Pat is some kind
> of magician, but his results are almost "magical".
>
> For example, I will give an example from a fellow List-member's
> experience. This person can chime in if they want, but I won't
> mention the name because this person has no idea I was going to offer
> up a testimonial on their behalf.
>
> Having said that, this person bought one of Pat's Campos that is about
> the size of grapefruit. This Campo now resides in one of the wettest
> climates in the Western hemisphere. In addition to the wet location,
> this Campo is used in outreach/educational work and it comes into
> contact with dozens of sweaty little kid hands on a regular basis.
> After over a year of this exposure, the specimen still shows no sign
> of rusting.
>
> Another specimen went to a prominent amateur astronomer (not a list
> member) who uses the Campo in outreach work also - again, this
> specimen comes into contact with sweaty little hands and is kept out
> in the open without any special precautions to prevent rust. And this
> specimen also shows no signs of rusting after several months of this
> kind of "abuse".
>
> Pat's process also works on pallasites and I have sold a few of these
> specimens to buyers in various locales - and all of them are pleased
> with the stability of their pieces.
>
> In the interest of full disclosure, I should state that I do get a
> kickback from Pat for the business I refer to him. But, I am
> blatantly honest about meteorites (to the point of pissing off a lot
> of people) and I would wholeheatedly endorse his process even if I was
> not receiving a kickback. I love meteorites and I want all meteorites
> to be preserved and cherished for generations to come. I think it is
> a noble endeavor to save these hopeless rusters from oblivion and it
> is my wish that Pat's process should see widespread use to save
> specimens like Admire from a horrible fate. I'd much rather see an
> Admire mass saved through Pat's process, than to see it dissolved in
> acid and rendered down into a pile of olivines.
>
> I think most people would agree, that on an aesthetic basis, Admire is
> a beautiful pallasite. If it's propensity to rust is removed from the
> equation, then Admire could hold it's own against any other pallasite
> on the market. The same could be said for Brenham also.
>
> I'd love for the skeptics to try Pat's process and try to make a liar
> out of me. I truly believe, in due time, Pat is going to become
> well-known and respected for his work. As of right now, he is not
> widely known and he is much more available for work. Once word gets
> out about the effectiveness of his process, I fully expect there will
> be a long waiting-list for his services.
>
> Imagine a world full of stable Nantans, Campos, Droninos, Admires, and
> Brenhams! That would be a great thing and I hope more people will try
> Pat's process and see for themselves.
>
> Best regards,
>
> MikeG
>
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> On 2/22/11, Greg Hupe <gmhupe at centurylink.net> wrote:
>> Hi MikeG,
>>
>> Thanks for the info, will be contacting Pat sometime soon. While I would
>> never expect anyone to give up their secret processes, I had to ask since
>> I
>> have used one of the processes in the past. This thread fits in perfectly
>> with the thread discussing the destruction of pallasites for gems, there
>> seems to be an alternative out there.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Greg
>>
>> ====================
>> Greg Hupe
>> The Hupe Collection
>> gmhupe at centurylink.net
>> www.LunarRock.com
>> IMCA 3163
>> ====================
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Gilmer
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:52 AM
>> To: Greg Hupe
>> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: Re: Pat's Stabilizing Process {was: The trials...}
>>
>> Hi Greg and List,
>>
>> Pat is a chemist by trade and I do not know all of the specifics
>> regarding his process. But I have seen the results first-hand and I
>> know of at least two other list members (both IMCA members and
>> respected dealers - one of them a long time veteran) who have used
>> Pat's process and have been delighted with the results. The large
>> Campos on my website are priced higher than the market average because
>> of their superior stability. A few potential buyers have balked at
>> paying a higher premium, because of the reputation that Campos have
>> for being rusters. But, I have also sold over a dozen of Pat's big
>> irons to all four corners of the world - including some very humid
>> climes. Every buyer is now a believer in Pat's process.
>>
>> As all of us know, rusting is major issue with many irons and
>> pallasites. There are a number of methods floating around on the web
>> for stabilizing sick meteorites. Some involve chemicals, some involve
>> a vacuum chamber, some involve electrolysis, and others use a
>> combination of those methods or something completely different.
>> Whatever Pat is doing, it works amazingly well and he is "on to
>> something". He is keeping his exact methodology close to his chest
>> and I don't really blame him for that - so I have never tried to pry
>> his method out of him.
>>
>> But I can say this without reservation - I may not be the most popular
>> guy on the List, but I'm no fool and I know when something works and
>> when something does not. Contact Pat and give his method a try. His
>> fee is very reasonable and he is a super guy to deal with. Once word
>> finally gets out about him, he is going to have more work than he can
>> handle.
>>
>> http://patmulvanymeteorites.embarqspace.com/
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> MikeG
>>
>>
>> On 2/22/11, Greg Hupe <gmhupe at centurylink.net> wrote:
>>> Hi MikeG and List,
>>>
>>> Mike, can you explain a little about what Pat does in the process to
>>> stabilize rusting meteorites. We have talked about the Reverse
>>> Electrolysis
>>> Process on this List in the past a couple times, is this part of Pat's
>>> method?
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance!
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> ====================
>>> Greg Hupe
>>> The Hupe Collection
>>> gmhupe at centurylink.net
>>> www.LunarRock.com
>>> IMCA 3163
>>> ====================
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Michael Gilmer
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:06 AM
>>> To: JoshuaTreeMuseum
>>> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in
>>> DealingwithLando wners
>>>
>>> OR, put the Admire masses through the Pat Mulvany process, which will
>>> render them completely stable on par with Esquel or the world's most
>>> stable pallasites.
>>>
>>> Admire is a pretty meteorite, and once the rusting issue is taken care
>>> of, it can stand on it's own against other pallasites.
>>>
>>> No need to dissolve them in acid and try to sell the gemstones as
>>> jewelry.
>>>
>>> Doubt Pat's process? That's fine - hang on to your rusters until they
>>> fall apart.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> MikeG
>>>
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