[meteorite-list] Pat's Stabilizing Process {was: The trials...}

From: Anita Westlake <anitawestlake_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 08:52:47 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <324830.39791.qm_at_web83802.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Sounds to me like the solution is to let little kids handle your rusters with
their sweaty little hands!
Anita




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From: Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
To: Greg Hupe <gmhupe at centurylink.net>
Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 11:12:27 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pat's Stabilizing Process {was: The trials...}

Hi Greg and List,

You won't regret contacting Pat.? I'm not saying that Pat is some kind
of magician, but his results are almost "magical".

For example, I will give an example from a fellow List-member's
experience.? This person can chime in if they want, but I won't
mention the name because this person has no idea I was going to offer
up a testimonial on their behalf.

Having said that, this person bought one of Pat's Campos that is about
the size of grapefruit.? This Campo now resides in one of the wettest
climates in the Western hemisphere.? In addition to the wet location,
this Campo is used in outreach/educational work and it comes into
contact with dozens of sweaty little kid hands on a regular basis.
After over a year of this exposure, the specimen still shows no sign
of rusting.

Another specimen went to a prominent amateur astronomer (not a list
member) who uses the Campo in outreach work also - again, this
specimen comes into contact with sweaty little hands and is kept out
in the open without any special precautions to prevent rust.? And this
specimen also shows no signs of rusting after several months of this
kind of "abuse".

Pat's process also works on pallasites and I have sold a few of these
specimens to buyers in various locales - and all of them are pleased
with the stability of their pieces.

In the interest of full disclosure, I should state that I do get a
kickback from Pat for the business I refer to him.? But, I am
blatantly honest about meteorites (to the point of pissing off a lot
of people) and I would wholeheatedly endorse his process even if I was
not receiving a kickback.? I love meteorites and I want all meteorites
to be preserved and cherished for generations to come.? I think it is
a noble endeavor to save these hopeless rusters from oblivion and it
is my wish that Pat's process should see widespread use to save
specimens like Admire from a horrible fate.? I'd much rather see an
Admire mass saved through Pat's process, than to see it dissolved in
acid and rendered down into a pile of olivines.

I think most people would agree, that on an aesthetic basis, Admire is
a beautiful pallasite.? If it's propensity to rust is removed from the
equation, then Admire could hold it's own against any other pallasite
on the market.? The same could be said for Brenham also.

I'd love for the skeptics to try Pat's process and try to make a liar
out of me.? I truly believe, in due time, Pat is going to become
well-known and respected for his work.? As of right now, he is not
widely known and he is much more available for work.? Once word gets
out about the effectiveness of his process, I fully expect there will
be a long waiting-list for his services.

Imagine a world full of stable Nantans, Campos, Droninos, Admires, and
Brenhams!? That would be a great thing and I hope more people will try
Pat's process and see for themselves.

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 2/22/11, Greg Hupe <gmhupe at centurylink.net> wrote:
> Hi MikeG,
>
> Thanks for the info, will be contacting Pat sometime soon. While I would
> never expect anyone to give up their secret processes, I had to ask since I
> have used one of the processes in the past. This thread fits in perfectly
> with the thread discussing the destruction of pallasites for gems, there
> seems to be an alternative out there.
>
> Best Regards,
> Greg
>
> ====================
> Greg Hupe
> The Hupe Collection
> gmhupe at centurylink.net
> www.LunarRock.com
> IMCA 3163
> ====================
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Gilmer
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:52 AM
> To: Greg Hupe
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: Pat's Stabilizing Process {was: The trials...}
>
> Hi Greg and List,
>
> Pat is a chemist by trade and I do not know all of the specifics
> regarding his process.? But I have seen the results first-hand and I
> know of at least two other list members (both IMCA members and
> respected dealers - one of them a long time veteran) who have used
> Pat's process and have been delighted with the results.? The large
> Campos on my website are priced higher than the market average because
> of their superior stability.? A few potential buyers have balked at
> paying a higher premium, because of the reputation that Campos have
> for being rusters.? But, I have also sold over a dozen of Pat's big
> irons to all four corners of the world - including some very humid
> climes.? Every buyer is now a believer in Pat's process.
>
> As all of us know, rusting is major issue with many irons and
> pallasites.? There are a number of methods floating around on the web
> for stabilizing sick meteorites.? Some involve chemicals, some involve
> a vacuum chamber, some involve electrolysis, and others use a
> combination of those methods or something completely different.
> Whatever Pat is doing, it works amazingly well and he is "on to
> something".? He is keeping his exact methodology close to his chest
> and I don't really blame him for that - so I have never tried to pry
> his method out of him.
>
> But I can say this without reservation - I may not be the most popular
> guy on the List, but I'm no fool and I know when something works and
> when something does not.? Contact Pat and give his method a try.? His
> fee is very reasonable and he is a super guy to deal with.? Once word
> finally gets out about him, he is going to have more work than he can
> handle.
>
> http://patmulvanymeteorites.embarqspace.com/
>
> Best regards,
>
> MikeG
>
>
> On 2/22/11, Greg Hupe <gmhupe at centurylink.net> wrote:
>> Hi MikeG and List,
>>
>> Mike, can you explain a little about what Pat does in the process to
>> stabilize rusting meteorites. We have talked about the Reverse
>> Electrolysis
>> Process on this List in the past a couple times, is this part of Pat's
>> method?
>>
>> Thank you in advance!
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Greg
>>
>> ====================
>> Greg Hupe
>> The Hupe Collection
>> gmhupe at centurylink.net
>> www.LunarRock.com
>> IMCA 3163
>> ====================
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Gilmer
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:06 AM
>> To: JoshuaTreeMuseum
>> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in
>> DealingwithLando wners
>>
>> OR, put the Admire masses through the Pat Mulvany process, which will
>> render them completely stable on par with Esquel or the world's most
>> stable pallasites.
>>
>> Admire is a pretty meteorite, and once the rusting issue is taken care
>> of, it can stand on it's own against other pallasites.
>>
>> No need to dissolve them in acid and try to sell the gemstones as jewelry.
>>
>> Doubt Pat's process?? That's fine - hang on to your rusters until they
>> fall apart.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> MikeG
>>
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>>
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