[meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA) IS paired to NWA 5400 !

From: countdeiro at earthlink.net <countdeiro_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:57:05 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
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Ah! Meine guten Freunde, Martin, Shawn und alle auf der Liste.

>Martin said, "And that is one point, which makes meteorite collecting so fascinating, that
>you can participate to a certain degree in the red-hot space research!"

You have hit the nail on the head, Martin! I, for one, collect for the thrill of having a specimen that advanced the knowledge of the cosmos and our beginnings.

What would one prize more and pay more to have? A lunar brought back by an astronaut from the moon, or the lunar found in the trackless deserts of NWA and proven by all science available to be authentic...or a specimen recovered from NWA that has a classification based on a PARTIAL analysis? Of course!!! The one with the impeccable provenance of being found on the moon!

What would command more of one's treasure. An Ensesheim with provenance, or a stone of the same classification from NWA? How about the first meteorite, with COMPLETE analysis, that is the first of it's kind found to be tied to the earth's early formation? Say NWA 5400?

It is the research, and the science, and the rarity, that first drive the desireability....then the other factors of collection enter the picture to set the initial price.

Please, ladies and gentlemen, don't denigrate those of us who say we collect for investment. We, in reality, support the research and the science of our learned academics with our obsession to participate.... by desiring to have and to hold what they have discovered.

Best to all,

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536

   

-----Original Message-----
>From: Martin Altmann <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
>Sent: Sep 28, 2010 9:17 AM
>To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA) IS paired to NWA 5400 !
>
>But, Shawn, Count, all..
>
>with NWA you get material, which you couldn't afford, if you'd have to buy
>it in form of historics,
>material, where not sufficient quantities for all, collectors&scientists,
>are available among the historics,
>you get NEW material and sometimes material not to be found among historics
>
>and you get it at an all-time-in-history-rock-bottom-low-price.
>(See my boringly lengthy posting from yesterday on the IMCA-list)
>
>And I don't know, always this volatileness...
>
>I mean for most collectors, meteorites are more than only an episode of two
>or three years,
>NWA we have for only 10 years now,
>all in all I don't have the impression that a price decline of NWAs
>happened, to me it seems rather, that the recent years they're getting -
>some slowly, some faster - more expensive.
>
>And if you think on the somewhat longer run, mid-term,
>I think, then it won't carry weight, whether today a NWA costs a couple of
>dollars more or less.
>
>
>Btw. meteorites are much more than curios or collectibles,
>they are objects of current cutting-edge research.
>
>Other than with fine art, antiques, coins, books, baseball cards ect. that
>field isn't so concludingly closed in that respect.
>
>And really..., it is certainly not the business of the research institutes
>and universities,
>to serve as certifiers and consultants for the valuation of meteorites as
>commercial collectibles.
>They do research and science.
>
>And that is one point, which makes meteorite collecting so fascinating, that
>you can participate to a certain degree in the red-hot space research!
>
>Best!
>Martin
>
>
>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Shawn
>Alan
>Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. September 2010 17:46
>An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>Betreff: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA) IS paired to NWA 5400 !
>
>?
>Adam wrote:
>?
>****************************************************************************
>*******
>?
>This issue is not unique to NWA meteorites. The same thing could be said for
>
>Antarctic or other desert finds. Yes, Antarctica is a desert. The same issue
>
>applies to falls. How much Allende is really out there? Nobody knows for
>sure,
>the same can be said for Murchison. You can make the same claim for just
>about
>any fall.
>?
>****************************************************************************
>*******
>?
>Adam the difference between NWAs and all the other falls is that NWA nobody
>knows where the strewn fields are. As for the rest, there is data on strewn
>fields and correct documentation that is used to asses the fall or find.
>?
>But with a NWA I find that people say that only buy my NWA because its the
>real deal and the pairs are inferior. The problem with that is with NWAs are
>collected and through out the months or year the same meteorite gets
>recycled back to dealers and in a since every NWA stone has to be classified
>cause of the collection process.
>?
>Good example is NWA 2999, I think this meteorite has 2 other pairings if not
>more and think how many pairs it will have in a few years from now? And
>another good example is NWA 5400 which could have a few pairs, which are
>very likely.
>?
>Now when people bank of there NWA as being rare cause of low TKW it seems
>that it this could be misleading cause of the circumstances that NWAs
>present to science and they way they are collected.
>?
>?
>Shawn Alan
>IMCA 1633
>eBaystore
>http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p
>4340
>
>
>?
>?
>?
>
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