[meteorite-list] International Shipping/Customs Questions
From: Martin Altmann <altmann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 13:35:25 +0200 Message-ID: <001801cb63b8$3d671850$b83548f0$_at_de> Hi Elton, as far as the import to Germany (and supposedly in most EU-countries it could be similar) from Non-EU-States is concerned: There meteorites - as long as they don't come in form of jewellery - are reckoned to the customs tariff category: "Mineral Collectibles". They are free of custom fees, but for import one has to pay the national VAT. In case of mineral collectibles a reduced rate of 7% on value+postage. The value is determined in a little less philosophical way, not the value of the of the raw materials, neither the acquisition costs, nor the intrinsic value, nor the insurance value is decisive, but it's more simple: A meteorite is a merchandise, the value is simply that, what the importer had paid for the specimen. And based on that value the import-VAT is calculated. Best! Martin -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von MEM Gesendet: Montag, 4. Oktober 2010 06:45 An: Matthew Martin; meteorite list Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] International Shipping/Customs Questions Hello Matt, List Disclaimer: This below discussion is for entertainment purposes only and the reader should consult their own legal services for legal advice as applicable. All those terms you mention apply to "meteorites" legally and legitimately. Meteorites are a subset of rocks so they are "geological samples". If you mark the contents as "meteorite" you are inviting pilferage and the kind of inquiry noted. To my knowledge "meteorite" is not a classification in the tariff tables so it can be subjectively placed within a more expensive tariff class if the customs agent is having a bad day. I prefer the declaration "geological specimen for study" vs "scientific" as it removes any question of it not being a "biological sample". So if you declare it a "geological sample for study" the customs agent can check the little box on the computer screen and your packages is on its way. The agent doesn't care what it is, so long as it fits neatly and legally in the paperwork. Don't give them a motive to think outside the box. Here are several facts regarding the nuances of shipping into the US and an example of how items can have multiple "values" legally. Under US import rules, scientific samples are not duty-able, however biological samples can be embargoed/quarantined for additional information-- invite inspection at a Level 3 containment facility and be arbitrarily destroyed if everything is not letter perfect including CITES compliance certification( Endangered Species Compliance). Technically, if importing/mailing "rocks" vs "geological samples" into the US, you may have also have to certify that they have been autoclaved in an oven at 250(?) degrees F for 2 hours(?) to kill nematodes. Once again, "geological samples for study" invites the least attention both by customs agents and thieves. One gray area is the value declaration "No Commercial value(NCV)". My rule of thumb is, if the intrinsic value of a specimen is substantially less then its study value ( NOTE: I am not addressing "collector's value" for then is may have commercial value) then you can still insure it under the theory of asset/replacement value and still legally and legitimately declare "No commercial value". Importing small quantities of rocks and or minerals into the US is generally not taxed. If shipping a specimen outside the US where they have hard line import/VAT fees I believe you are entitled declare NCV but if you insure it for extraordinary value then depending on country to country the insurance value might invoke Duty/Vat charges on the customer. CAVEATS: If you are importing "ruby facet rough" for the purpose of making your own finished stones, then I am not sure you are entitled to use "NCV or Geological sample for study" in the customs declaration. If however you are redistributing/reselling it or reshipping it to others who may be only buying it for a "study sample", then you might be able to legally use "NCV/Specimen for study". It is a gray area and depends on if you are receiving a small packet or a Sea-Land 40ft container. "Country of Origin" can a problem if importing material which was originally recovered in Mymimar or pearls from Tahiti(?) unless they contain within the packing the words " Collected before embargo" assuming they were in fact from old collections. Intrinsic vs Commercial vs Asset valuation. You go to on expedition to Greenland for 4 weeks and collect fossil bearing rocks for distribution to other researchers or for your own amateur study ( NOTE: "Research" includes "study" but "study" doesn't always imply "research". The exclusion wording in US law is " specimens for study"). The rocks themselves, in the low quantity you are shipping/importing, are "intrinsically" equal to "gravel" in value-- limestone is limestone is limestone--10 cents per lb at your local landscaper. In and of itself. a specimen, or crate thereof, may not have intrinsic value. Exceptions maybe precious metal nuggets where intrinsic value could be argued but are generally never questioned by customs unless they have extraordinary value like several thousand coin of the realm. If they are not intended to be refined then they theoretically qualify as no intrinsic value. NOTE: "No intrinsic value" is a legal concept-- not for customs declaration purposes. It is a legal argument against being taxed should the issue arise. If anyone has nuggets they can't import send them to me I CAN whip out a quick study plan but will of course have to retain a portion for my own study and edification. Back to our example, the cost of collecting is called the acquisition cost which is the accounting value you place on your "asset" -- e.g. the expedition cost to go to Greenland, room, board, tool rental, local guide, supplies while there and etc--. Lets say it works out $1000 per kilogram. This is the cost to go back to Greenland and replace the material and what you are insuring. You may legitimately value the specimens along those lines even if they have no commercial value. So even if it is gravel in a commercial sense it has no "intrinsic" value but still "valuable" to study --Say...study the evolution of a sub-species of trilobites of the Ordovician found only in Greenland--ergo its scientific value far exceeds its intrinsic value and can be worth $1000 per kilo for asset valuing purposes and be still be of no commercial value. Cut stones; Even though cut stones are or were legitimately geological samples, the act of cutting to a gem, moved them into a "manufactured goods" category which can be duty-able, but not as much tariff as they would get be were they set in a finding-- then they are jewelry and garner a luxury tariff.. The cutting /preparation of a geological "specimen" in general does not change its classification since cutting is customary practice in preparing samples for study--and does not alter its intrinsic value. Disclaimer: This above discussion is for entertainment purposes only and the reader should consult their own legal services for legal advice as applicable. Elton ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Received on Mon 04 Oct 2010 07:35:25 AM PDT |
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