[meteorite-list] Forwarded: Not a missile -- a jet contrail

From: Rob Matson <mojave_meteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:05:33 -0800
Message-ID: <GOEDJOCBMMEHLEFDHGMMMEHFEGAA.mojave_meteorites_at_cox.net>

Hi Count,

Quite a few pieces of evidence against a missile launch:

1. Military says they didn't launch anything
2. No NOTAM submitted (in heavily congested int'l airport corridor)
3. SLBMs never launch from coastal California waters
4. No upper atmospheric, differential wind shear of the plume
5. Contrail grew far too slowly for a missile launch
6. Contrail did not persist after sunset (no twilight glow)
7. No corresponding high-speed, high-altitude object on radar

--Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: Count Deiro [mailto:countdeiro at earthlink.net]
Sent: Tue 11/9/2010 11:37 PM
To: Richard Kowalski; meteorite list; Matson, Robert D.
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail

Hello Richard and Listoids,

The subject contrail/combustion byproduct/condensation trail was not made by
a turbojet powered aircraft. There is only one trail and it displays a
massive constant volume atypical of conventional multi-engine aircraft which
display a separate condensation trail from each engine. High altitude can
make an airliner's condensation trails look like a single artifact, but when
seen closer you easily can count the engines by the individual trails.

The volume and density of this trail belie any water condensed trail I have
seen from an aircraft. The trail of a rocket powered X15 isn't anywhere near
as massive as this dude.. In my learned opinion, this missle was powered by
a single (non-staging) big ass, solid fuel rocket engine. It looks like your
standard submarine launched ICBM going down range to our Pacific Test Area.

Did you see the helicopter hovering in an observing position?

Best,

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536

P.S. In another life I was the Director of Aviation Facilities for the
Hughes Tool Co. and an ATP rated aviator.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Richard Kowalski <damoclid at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Nov 9, 2010 6:54 PM
>To: meteorite list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>, " Robert
D.Matson" <ROBERT.D.MATSON at saic.com>
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
>
>OK
>
>I'd like to see the third one i more detail, but its probably a contrail.
>
>
>--
>Richard Kowalski
>Full Moon Photography
>IMCA #1081
Received on Wed 10 Nov 2010 03:05:33 AM PST