[meteorite-list] OT: Not a missile -- a jet contrail

From: Count Deiro <countdeiro_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:09:04 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Message-ID: <11437122.1289376544944.JavaMail.root_at_elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi Bob,

You make a pretty convincing argument. After pondering your seven points I decided I had better lay off the wine before making any more assertions on List. I am not so sure now what this thing was. As they say in Alabama..."Hit shor don't look like no aeroplane."

Guido


-----Original Message-----
>From: "Matson, Robert D." <ROBERT.D.MATSON at saic.com>
>Sent: Nov 9, 2010 11:54 PM
>To: Count Deiro <countdeiro at earthlink.net>, meteorite list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>Subject: OT: Not a missile -- a jet contrail
>
>Hi Count,
>
>Quite a few pieces of evidence against a missile launch:
>
>1. Military says they didn't launch anything
>2. No NOTAM submitted (in heavily congested int'l airport corridor)
>3. SLBMs never launch from coastal California waters
>4. No upper atmospheric, differential wind shear of the plume
>5. Contrail grew far too slowly for a missile launch
>6. Contrail did not persist after sunset (no twilight glow)
>7. No corresponding high-speed, high-altitude object on radar
>
>--Rob
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Count Deiro [mailto:countdeiro at earthlink.net]
>Sent: Tue 11/9/2010 11:37 PM
>To: Richard Kowalski; meteorite list; Matson, Robert D.
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
>
>Hello Richard and Listoids,
>
>The subject contrail/combustion byproduct/condensation trail was not made by a turbojet powered aircraft. There is only one trail and it displays a massive constant volume atypical of conventional multi-engine aircraft which display a separate condensation trail from each engine. High altitude can make an airliner's condensation trails look like a single artifact, but when seen closer you easily can count the engines by the individual trails.
>
>The volume and density of this trail belie any water condensed trail I have seen from an aircraft. The trail of a rocket powered X15 isn't anywhere near as massive as this dude.. In my learned opinion, this missle was powered by a single (non-staging) big ass, solid fuel rocket engine. It looks like your standard submarine launched ICBM going down range to our Pacific Test Area.
>
>Did you see the helicopter hovering in an observing position?
>
>Best,
>
>Count Deiro
>IMCA 3536
>
>P.S. In another life I was the Director of Aviation Facilities for the Hughes Tool Co. and an ATP rated aviator.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Richard Kowalski <damoclid at yahoo.com>
>>Sent: Nov 9, 2010 6:54 PM
>>To: meteorite list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>, " Robert D.Matson" <ROBERT.D.MATSON at saic.com>
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not a missile -- a jet contrail
>>
>>OK
>>
>>I'd like to see the third one i more detail, but its probably a contrail.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Richard Kowalski
>>Full Moon Photography
>>IMCA #1081
>
Received on Wed 10 Nov 2010 03:09:04 AM PST