[meteorite-list] (Whetstone)> Glorieta Mountain strewnfield map

From: Linton Rohr <lintonius_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:07:13 -0800
Message-ID: <2D4DB9CBC0844C6B82D3D2C5C8206AD3_at_D190TH71>

Yes. Fairly straight forward, isn't it Elizabeth?
Unless one's vision is clouded by anger and/or jealousy.
Apparently someone has an axe to grind against a good man.
Linton

I sure hope the original poster has had some off-list responses to his
hijacked question.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Elizabeth Warner" <warnerem at astro.umd.edu>
To: "meteoritelist" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Re: Fw: Request > Glorieta Mountain
strewnfield map


> Even I figured this one out... yes, it says "unknown" down in the
> Geography section, but if you read up near the top in the Writeup section,
> it clearly says
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> Writeup from MB 97:
> Whetstone Mountains
> Arizona, United States [location information to be withheld until
> publication in MAPS]
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>
> I imagine that once MAPS is published, that those two parts of the page
> will get updated accordingly...
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> Clear Skies!
> Elizabeth
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> cdtucson at cox.net wrote:
>> --
>> Carl or Debbie Esparza
>> Meteoritemax
>>
>>
>>> Jack,
>>> I am so sorry. I guess I am mistaken.
>>> I mean the place where it says Coordinates "Unknown" must have meant
>>> something else? Where exactly is "unknown", AZ? see link
>>> http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/index.php?sea=Whetstone+Mountains&sfor=names&ants=&falls=&valids=&stype=contains&lrec=50&map=ge&browse=&country=All&srt=name&categ=All&mblist=All&rect=&phot=&snew=0&pnt=Normal%20table&code=49514
>>>
>>> I guess I thought that since it shows up in the bulletin that the
>>> mapping was already done. By the way I did say "Nothing personal here
>>> but as always it's who you know I guess. sorry." So, I say again nothing
>>> personal here but as always it's who you know. Sorry!
>>> So, where are you getting the latest one you found classified? Because
>>> it is not the third AZ fall is it? Carl
>>> --
>>> Carl or Debbie Esparza
>>> Meteoritemax
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- Jack Schrader <schraderj at rocketmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Carl, Since you posted your comment to the list in regards to myself
>>>> and my son, I am going to comment openly on this list in reply. The
>>>> University of Arizona was immediately supplied with the coordinates of
>>>> the Whetstone Mountains area fall. The U of A would not classify the
>>>> sample of WM without the coordinates, nor could the meteorite be
>>>> officially recognized by the Meteoritical Society without the exact
>>>> coordinates. The coordinates were withheld as a courtesy to allow for
>>>> the proper mapping of the strewnfield. Apparently, the Meteoritical
>>>> Society and the University of Arizona find the data not only useful but
>>>> very valuable as well.
>>>> I take great exception to your implications in your post that I
>>>> received favored treatment from the U of A because my son is a graduate
>>>> student there. Great exception to your ignorant comment! I am
>>>> actually fuming at the moment! My son Devin had absolutely nothing to
>>>> do with the classification of the meteorite or the fact that the
>>>> classification was accepted by the U of A and accomplished so quickly.
>>>> The University of Arizona accepted this for classification due solely
>>>> to the fact that it was the first Arizona fall recovered in 97 years
>>>> and was recovered in their own back yard. It had nothing to do with my
>>>> son or "who you know". The fall was historic and important to my Alma
>>>> Mater, the University of Arizona. If you do not know what you are
>>>> talking about, then I suggest you keep your mouth shut. You owe my son
>>>> Devin and myself an apology for your ignorant and uncalled for
>>>> comments.
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Jack L. Schrader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>>>> From: "cdtucson at cox.net" <cdtucson at cox.net>
>>>> To: meteoritefinder at yahoo.com; jgrossman at usgs.gov; Greg Stanley
>>>> <stanleygregr at hotmail.com>
>>>> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>> Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 3:04:07 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Request > Glorieta Mountain strewnfield
>>>> map
>>>>
>>>> Greg,
>>>> I'm not saying they are useless. I am just saying for scientific
>>>> knowledge they are not all that important. I'm just saying that I don't
>>>> like having my new find classification held up because I don't want to
>>>> share co-ords at this time. that's all. Although depending on who you
>>>> are you may be able to get it done without co-ords. If you are say,
>>>> someone named Jack and your son works at U of A Planetary sciences
>>>> perhaps? Nothing personal here but as always it's who you know I guess.
>>>> sorry.
>>>> And by the way. I don't remember where I found that
>>>> beautiful blood red ruby. Why do you ask? If I happen to remember, you
>>>> will be the first to know. NOT! --
>>>> Carl or Debbie Esparza
>>>> Meteoritemax
Received on Tue 09 Mar 2010 07:07:13 PM PST