[meteorite-list] Rock testing...best place

From: Barry Hughes <bhughes_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:01:31 -0400
Message-ID: <AANLkTik0ULAeRphClS1XcqX6iNwPTvhQzaTmzzyU6LYN_at_mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for your reply, Carl or Debbie..:)
There are black patches, it doesn't take pictures well...and there is
a large stress crack in the middle, hard to see in the picture, but to
tell the truth, I really didn't want to get into..is this a meteorite
or not...
I got my question answered and I thank you for your response..
Barry

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:07 PM, <cdtucson at cox.net> wrote:
> Barry,
> Sorry if this posted twice.
> You may have a Lunar but, without a really good visible black shiny fusion crust
> nobody will want to test it.
> briefly , let me explain why.
> First of all there is little reason to believe it is anything more than an
> igneous rock.
> They are found everywhere. Especially in the western USA. And your rock lacks
> the exact contents of the pictured rock you are showing it with. Yours lacks the larger crystals.
> Secondly, it has No fusion crust or even visible shock veins inside. Lacking both of
> those features gives no reason to believe it was ever in space.
> If you find someone with access to a scanning electron microprobe they could
> tell you exactly what it is. That said. Based on certain elemental ratios they
> could only rule out lunar origin but, they still could not confirm without more testing. Nearly 100 % of all
> Lunar's must have O-isotopes that match Earth. This is only ever tested for ?on rocks
> that they already know are Lunar's and largely just for confirmation because
> every Earth rock is also going to have Earth O-isotopes.
> So I agree with Phil. Even if it is Lunar, Until there becomes a lab that will
> check, you are SOL.
> Ted Bunch is our Lunar expert but, if he won't ?help you then keep looking
> for other stones that actually look like they have once been in space and forget about this one.
> Even Mike farmer has been fooled. And trust me. If anybody can tell a Lunar by
> sight it is Mike. Period. If mike says no. It is a NO.
> Try sending him a picture but don't mention me. ?He is the
> best at identifying all meteorites on sight alone.
> Cutting to the chase here. Lunar Meteorites tend to retain their crusts for a
> very long time. After all it is glassy and glass is very durable in terms of weathering.
> So, again . A lack of crust and shock veins means most likely an Earth rock. Sorry. Carl
> --
> Carl or Debbie Esparza
> Meteoritemax
>
>
> ---- Barry Hughes <bhughes at sneezy.com> wrote:
>> I've already taken to the geology dept at Dodd Hall, Ohio State. ?The
>> guy there said he couldn't tell me it wasn't and to have it checked
>> out.
>> I've heard it's not a meteorite several times from several people with
>> the uncanny ability to tell from a picture, or possibly the odds of it
>> not being makes it so reassuring to do so.
>>
>> Barry
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:39 AM, JoshuaTreeMuseum
>> <joshuatreemuseum at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>> > Barry,
>> > I hate to rain on your parade, but this is not a lunar and it's not a
>> > meteorite. ?You don't have to pay to have it identified, just take it to the
>> > closest university geology professor, and he'll tell you what it is. ?At
>> > least once ?a month, someone comes in the museum with their new lunar find.
>> > After I look at it and see it's not a meteorite, (it never is), I then tell
>> > them that the chances of them being the first person to ever find a lunar
>> > meteorite in all of North America, South America, Europe, and Asia is very
>> > close to zero. ?Whatever the smallest increment above zero is, that's your
>> > chance of being the first.
>> >
>> > If I'm wrong, you'll be the toast of the international meteorite community,
>> > as well as being featured on the cover of Nature, National Geographic, Time
>> > and Newsweek. ?You will also get to meet the President as you present your
>> > find to the Smithsonian.
>> >
>> > Good luck, I could be wrong, but don't get your hopes up.
>> >
>> > Phil Whitmer
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