[meteorite-list] Rock testing...best place

From: Barry Hughes <bhughes_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:27:32 -0400
Message-ID: <AANLkTinVhUFvIaghfDNNfaPgqMKPZakbdoqXHvWYHWn9_at_mail.gmail.com>

That doesn't read well...I do thank you for your post. I'm learning
> the politics of meteorite hunting....
> Barry

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Barry Hughes <bhughes at sneezy.com> wrote:
> Thanks for your reply, Carl or Debbie..:)
> There are black patches, it doesn't take pictures well...and there is
> a large stress crack in the middle, hard to see in the picture, but to
> tell the truth, I really didn't want to get into..is this a meteorite
> or not...
> I got my question answered and I thank you for your response..
> Barry
>
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:07 PM, ?<cdtucson at cox.net> wrote:
>> Barry,
>> Sorry if this posted twice.
>> You may have a Lunar but, without a really good visible black shiny fusion crust
>> nobody will want to test it.
>> briefly , let me explain why.
>> First of all there is little reason to believe it is anything more than an
>> igneous rock.
>> They are found everywhere. Especially in the western USA. And your rock lacks
>> the exact contents of the pictured rock you are showing it with. Yours lacks the larger crystals.
>> Secondly, it has No fusion crust or even visible shock veins inside. Lacking both of
>> those features gives no reason to believe it was ever in space.
>> If you find someone with access to a scanning electron microprobe they could
>> tell you exactly what it is. That said. Based on certain elemental ratios they
>> could only rule out lunar origin but, they still could not confirm without more testing. Nearly 100 % of all
>> Lunar's must have O-isotopes that match Earth. This is only ever tested for ?on rocks
>> that they already know are Lunar's and largely just for confirmation because
>> every Earth rock is also going to have Earth O-isotopes.
>> So I agree with Phil. Even if it is Lunar, Until there becomes a lab that will
>> check, you are SOL.
>> Ted Bunch is our Lunar expert but, if he won't ?help you then keep looking
>> for other stones that actually look like they have once been in space and forget about this one.
>> Even Mike farmer has been fooled. And trust me. If anybody can tell a Lunar by
>> sight it is Mike. Period. If mike says no. It is a NO.
>> Try sending him a picture but don't mention me. ?He is the
>> best at identifying all meteorites on sight alone.
>> Cutting to the chase here. Lunar Meteorites tend to retain their crusts for a
>> very long time. After all it is glassy and glass is very durable in terms of weathering.
>> So, again . A lack of crust and shock veins means most likely an Earth rock. Sorry. Carl
>> --
>> Carl or Debbie Esparza
>> Meteoritemax
>>
>>
>> ---- Barry Hughes <bhughes at sneezy.com> wrote:
>>> I've already taken to the geology dept at Dodd Hall, Ohio State. ?The
>>> guy there said he couldn't tell me it wasn't and to have it checked
>>> out.
>>> I've heard it's not a meteorite several times from several people with
>>> the uncanny ability to tell from a picture, or possibly the odds of it
>>> not being makes it so reassuring to do so.
>>>
>>> Barry
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:39 AM, JoshuaTreeMuseum
>>> <joshuatreemuseum at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Barry,
>>> > I hate to rain on your parade, but this is not a lunar and it's not a
>>> > meteorite. ?You don't have to pay to have it identified, just take it to the
>>> > closest university geology professor, and he'll tell you what it is. ?At
>>> > least once ?a month, someone comes in the museum with their new lunar find.
>>> > After I look at it and see it's not a meteorite, (it never is), I then tell
>>> > them that the chances of them being the first person to ever find a lunar
>>> > meteorite in all of North America, South America, Europe, and Asia is very
>>> > close to zero. ?Whatever the smallest increment above zero is, that's your
>>> > chance of being the first.
>>> >
>>> > If I'm wrong, you'll be the toast of the international meteorite community,
>>> > as well as being featured on the cover of Nature, National Geographic, Time
>>> > and Newsweek. ?You will also get to meet the President as you present your
>>> > find to the Smithsonian.
>>> >
>>> > Good luck, I could be wrong, but don't get your hopes up.
>>> >
>>> > Phil Whitmer
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