[meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still aMystery?????

From: Meteorites USA <eric_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 12:35:10 -0800
Message-ID: <4B43A27E.8080103_at_meteoritesusa.com>

Hey Chris, List,

The report does state that there were no burn marks (possible
fireworks?) or evidence of anything hot. D) If you look at the photos
you'll notice the opening seems to support a "falling" object. Robert
said himself, (unless misquoted) that ?If you look at that hole, it
shows that something small hit the roof at a high velocity,?

The comment "...reports of a loud noise almost precisely at the moment
the building was struck are a solid clue that the object didn't come
from space...." is misplaced and presumptive in my opinion. This is
assuming the "loud noise" in question was a sonic boom, which people
didn't say sonic boom, they said loud boom. The people who reported the
"boom" were only 3 blocks away. And how do they know the exact moment of
impact anyway since they saw nothing? No one except the people in the
bar at the time of the event know that, or perhaps an eyewitness
standing on the street outside the bar.

It's highly possible it could have been some explosive device such as
fireworks. A large mortar could possibly make a whole that large. But
the lack of burn marks doesn't support that.

Unless...

Here's a scenario. A large mortar exploded ABOVE the roof, not on it,
and a piece of debris flew through the roof and ceiling tile. This would
explain the lack of burning, it would explain the boom that was heard,
and would explain the hole in the roof. It would also explain why there
is no meteorite or rock found as of yet because while people are busy
searching for rocks, the "debris" that actually caused the hole could be
a hidden amongst the pieces of roofing material, wood splinters and
insulation and look like nothing more than piece of the roof. Anyway,
that's what I get from it, but what do I know?

"...The hole was clearly made from the roof down, which meant it wasn?t
caused by gunfire in the bar, and there?s no burn marks or signs of high
heat that would indicate lightning...."

The point is something either blew a hole in the roof or knocked a hole
in the roof from to TOP DOWN. It's still a possibility that it could be
a meteorite. Until proven it's not, we have to be open about the
possibility.

Regards,
Eric



On 1/5/2010 11:23 AM, Chris Peterson wrote:
> Don't overlook (C) something explosive made the hole, or (D) that an
> object actually went upwards, not down.
>
> There's nothing wrong if somebody wants to investigate, but the
> description of the event is not consistent with a meteorite impact, so
> it's also perfectly understandable for hunters to pass on this one.
>
> Chris
>
> *****************************************
> Chris L Peterson
> Cloudbait Observatory
> http://www.cloudbait.com
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>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meteorites USA"
> <eric at meteoritesusa.com>
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 12:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hole in Red Rock Lounge Roof Still
> aMystery?????
>
>
>> Hi Gary, Matt,
>>
>> Maybe you guys are simply being facetious or or skeptical. Maybe
>> Matt, you really didn't feel like it was worth it. But, I believe it
>> is worth it simply because it could have be a meteorite! And though
>> up to this point though none have been found to prove that case, the
>> evidence still suggests it could be. I know if I could have afforded
>> it I would go investigate.
>>
>> Did you see the photos? Read the articles, see the news report?
>> Either A) the bar is pulling a big hoax , or perhaps hiding an
>> embarrassing flub, and knocked the hole in the roof an tile
>> themselves, or B) a small object with a solid mass crashed through
>> the roof and ceiling tile.
>>
>> Has anyone thought to ask the owners or bartender on duty that night
>> for a list of people that where there in the bar during the even.
>> Locals know locals and would probably be able to compile a list of
>> people fairly easily. Perhaps a meteorite did fall through the roof
>> and only one person saw it and took the object from the scene? Just
>> hopeful thinking yes, but it's a possibility.
>>
>> http://www.gazette.com/articles/guy-91739-bar-heard.html
>>
>> Something fell through the roof. Where is it?
>>
>> Some people just don't have the gumption to get in the car and drive
>> half way across the country for a "possible" meteorite.
>>
>> If you've ever met Robert you'll know right away he's the kind of
>> hunter that does! He's got that air about him that just says "I'll go
>> anywhere on earth to find a meteorite."
>>
>> Way to go Robert!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Eric
>
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