[meteorite-list] Anne Black & IMCA (was NWA 6292 2.110 gram)

From: Charley <cmb62_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:16:38 -0400
Message-ID: <CC087957E78C443EA1D904D76CBC7F63_at_HAL1>

Hi Martin,

Thank you for expressing so well what I beleive many of us (IMCA and
non-IMCA members alike) feel about Anne and IMCA.

I have known Anne (via email and phone) for several years and feel we have
become good friends. She has always been very helpful to me,
answering questions and connecting me with people that could offer
assistance in a project I am researching. She and I (and Norbert Classen as
well)
have had a number of email exchanges about meteorites and also non-meteorite
related issues. When I happened to mention to Anne that I was going
to do a meteorite presentation at the local middle school, she immediately
offerered to donate a book to the class!

For reasons unknown to me, the list occasionally sees someone go off about
IMCA and how corrupt it is. I've been a member for several years and have
never
seen any evidence of anything that was dishonest on the part of any IMCA
board person or member. I have seen several occasions where people made
accusations
against IMCA that are unfounded (and often shown to be unfounded by Anne)
but , oddly enough, the accusers never apologize (at least publically) when
shown that
their comments are simply not true .

I am proud to consider Anne & Norbert my friends and I am proud to be a
member of IMCA. If people choose not to join, that is their right. They do
not have the right
to slander or libel good people based on "stories" they are told off list.

Best regards,

Charley Butterfield
IMCA 6123


> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:42:01 +0200
> From: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 2.110 gram
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
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> Carl,
>
> yes, probably you better shouldn't have pressed the "send" button.
>
> Neither you, Barry.
>
> Of course everyone is free to express his opinion,
> but the form it happened in, is not acceptable.
>
> Here you have the list archives:
> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html
>
> There you will find not a single posting by Anne, where she would have
> insulted any person.
> And certainly Dr.Jambon feels not insulted by her.
>
> On contrary, in a silly brawl about possible pairings of stones, silly,
> because they still are in the totally normal process of classification -
> caused by the impatience of some list-members,
> she called on the list-members to do that, what one could expect from any
> mature meteorite collector,
> to demonstrate the patience necessary and to wait until the results of
> the analyses will be ready.
> And furthermore she got committed to exchange samples of the questioned
> stones, between the scientists involved in the classification processes,
> which in the end now seems to work, so that the matter can be solved by
> scientific criteria to the full satisfaction of all interested in that
> question.
>
>> Ann Black has made of a chance for a legitimate
>
> I tell you Barry, what Anne has made.
>
> As co-founder of the IMCA she made the meteoritic world a safer place for
> everyone, also for you, introducing new standards into the meteorite
> trade, which got more and more widely accepted.
> And she created with IMCA a contact point for conflict resolution for
> participants in meteoritics
> and a place for advice in meteoritic questions and a source of
> information about meteorites.
>
> And that open to everyone and that free of charge for everyone.
>
> And like the other founders of IMCA, she did this in thousands of
> working-hours absolutely unpaid.
>
>
> That is certainly more, than to type an imprudent mail in the head of a
> moment - lock, stock and barrel condemning everything, what one even
> doesn't know,
> and to attack with inacceptable wordings a person, to whom the meteorite
> community owes respect and gratitude
> for that, what she has achieved for that community.
>
> Everyone is free to dislike and to criticize IMCA,
> but I think if that's done in public, one should try to stick to facts
> and should abstain from personal decrials.
>
> I'm sure, that when you'll have slept on it,
> you'll think similarly about that.
>
> Martin
Received on Fri 20 Aug 2010 06:16:38 PM PDT