[meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale

From: meteorhntr at aol.com <meteorhntr_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 16:28:03 +0000
Message-ID: <929264838-1272126437-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1005743518-_at_bda353.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Ruben and list.

If someone is promising 50% of the value, then they should honor their word. Not tell the land owners they are only worth $4/g then give them $2/g pretending that is 50% of the real value.

If a hunter only wants to max give up $2/g then they should be honest and say up front, before they start hunting: "I'm willing to give you $2/g for anything I find, do we have a deal?"

If someone is claiming they are only worth $4/g, but later the land owner finds out the real value is $20/g then there might be a reason to think someone isn't being honest.

My suggestion to those still in the field still is to be 100% honest with the land owners, and I would think you would have nothing to be afraid of.

If giving up 50% of say $100/g is too much, then offer them
40% or 20% or 10% or 2%. If $50/g is too high of a field price, then "supply and demand" between the hunters in the field will ratchet the percentage down to something more fair like 15% or maybe 20% of $100/g.

I know that yesterday, there were people knocking on doors in the strewnfield offering the locals $20/g. It would not surprize me if tomorrow there will be people knocking on doors offering $30 then $40 then $50/g.

In fact, I left on Sunday for NY and when I got back, the land owner where I found my biggest rock told Geoff and I that there was a group of guys that came to his door and said that I was a con man, that I rip people off, that I'm being sued, that he (the land owner) would never see a penny from me and that his only chance to see any money was if he somehow got the rock back from me ASAP and sold it to one of them for $5,000 cash.

So I don't buy into the BS that if the meteorites stay off ebay while the hunters are still in the field, that means the locals won't wise up to the real values anyway in the mean time.

Steve
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ruben Garcia <mrmeteorite at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 06:50:28
To: Mike Miller<meteoritefinder at gmail.com>
Cc: Meteorite-list<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; Brian Cox<searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale

Hi all,

Mike Miller is absolutely right! Unfortunately (for me) I may have
started this whole thing (Although I was careful not to mention a
dollar amount) I was the first to offer a Wisconsin stone for sale.

The problem is obvious - when a local gets word that a stone is worth
x amount of dollars then that is what they will want half of - if you
find one on their property. So if the going rate to farmers/land
owners is $20 per gram then it could go to $50g if they feel that
Wisconsin space rocks are selling for $100g.

I was being selfish and once I left the field forgot someone else
could be hurt by my actions.

My sincere apologies to all still in the field!

Ruben Garcia



On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Mike Miller <meteoritefinder at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Brian I don't think I have ever been involved in ?an argument on
> this list and I wont start one here either. I am just pointing out the
> standard edict that we as a group of meteorite hunters have worked out
> over the past few years. When I say we I mean Steve Arnold of the
> meteorite men along with myself ?and most every other hunter and
> dealer on this list. Steve had something to say about this very same
> situation when another list member from Chicago mentioned a price
> while we were still in West Texas hunting. If I remember correctly
> Steve Arnold of the meteorite men, was very upset when he was the one
> out in the field and someone else was causing the same problem he is
> now saying he must do.
>
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Brian Cox
> <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> I just want to mention that it's the business of whomever is selling their
>> meteorites either from Wisconsin or West or Buzzard Coulee or from wherever
>> and I am not judging anyone on that. Sell them on ebay or on a website or by
>> silent or private auction. The price is not up to me nor anyone, but by what
>> the market will set that price at.
>>
>> Either way it's done just please remember that we are a "Small Group" and
>> should be a tightly knit group, although we do often debate and sometimes
>> argue about the processes and procedures we go through.
>>
>> With this new fall there certainly will be more people coming to everyone's
>> websites and on ebay and researching information and coming to the Met List.
>>
>> We all need to be as straightforward and honest and yes, I will certainly
>> try to be as respectful in my opinions and I request that everyone else be
>> respectful of one another.
>>
>> Enjoy the weekend everyone.
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