[meteorite-list] OFF-TOPIC - Fake Lunar Landing Response

From: Dennis Beatty <apollocollector_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:22:08 -0700
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP447B50D3C968E46AC4B97BB6060_at_phx.gbl>

Hello Jessica,

With all due respect, you have not done your homework. The questions
which you pose have been discredited numerous times. And some are
just plain silly. For example, how can you claim that there was no
direct TV feed?? I don't know how old you are, but I sat in front of
our television and watched as Armstrong and Aldrin walked on the
Moon. There are plenty of tapes...but unfortunately, the highest
quality ones do seem to have been lost. Regarding your contention
that there are no blurry photos and that all are perfectly composed, I
must disagree. Perhaps all of the photos which you have seen are
"perfect" but obviously, you have not seen them all. I have spent the
past couple of years studying the photos from the Apollo missions as
well as stitching them together and cleaning them up as necessary to
create large panoramic images. There are many which are out of focus,
poorly composed, taken mistakenly and damaged by lunar dust and
contaminants. check out this link: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/
    But overall, the highly trained astronauts did an amazing job.

I don't know the first thing about golf, but just because you go out
and putter around on the greens does not make you an
expert...particularly when you consider the major differences between
the environments here on Earth and on the Moon.

Why no Stars?? The astronauts were working in daylight. How many
stars (other than our sun) do you see when you go outside during the
day??

No engine sound?? With no atmosphere, there is not a medium to carry
the sound waves. Didn't you ever see the movie "Alien"?? There is a
reason why they used the tag line "In Space, No One Can Hear You
Scream".

I could go on, but I don't want to waste any more time on a nut job
like you.

Dennis Beatty
ApolloCollector.com

On Apr 24, 2010, at 8:50 AM, power ofunity wrote:

> Please Warren, your canned responses were expected
>
> I mean no discredit to the dedicated scientists and professionals at
> NASA and the military that worked on the project, and those that
> soldier on today, and I answered you in jest off list - no need to
> take this public, unless you want to.
>
> Speaking of the heroes that died in the Apollo I fire, Lt. Col Guss
> Grissom had gone public that the AS-204 was a lemon, and called a
> press conference to address grievances against NASA, and he, Roger
> Chaffee, and Ed White were killed on Pad 34.
>
> I take nobody at their word, and I do research the information...I
> was introduced to the topic from an ex-OSS officer, and a tireless
> college professor at the University of Missouri - Columbia. I don't
> claim to know the answer, but I do know there are glaring
> inconsistencies with the official story - for both the lunar
> landing, and the collapse of the towers that YOU brought up.
>
> The Russians didn't call us out because we sent hundreds of
> thousands of $$$ worth of grain to a hungry Russian country for FREE.
>
> Follow the $$$ - cost of Apollo space program - 1969 dollars - $25.4
> billion in 2010 money - 150 billion plus - perfect start for the
> arms and space race
>
> They raised $30 billion - plenty of profit motive - and nice
> distraction from the Vietnam War.
>
> Why was there no direct Tv Feed - and where are the tapes? How did
> the astronauts manage to take thousands of photos, and none of them
> are blurry, all with expert composition. I am a professional
> photographer, and I know this is imossible on earth, much less on
> the moon, with cameras mounted on the chest, with gloves on, and no
> way to utilize the detailed functions of the camera...these were not
> point and shoot! 5,771 photos taken in 4834 minutes on the moon,
> with experiments and golf fit in as well.
>
> John Mauldin, astrophysicist at NASA, said shielding two meters
> thick would be needed to survive solar flares, and astronomical data
> shows 1,485 flares during Apollo flights, with no such protection.
> If the suits the astronauts wore really protected them from deadly
> radiation, why didn't we use them at chernobyl? The radiation at
> chernobyl was a fraction of what would be experienced on the moon.
> Apollo 16 should have encountered a huge flare! Van Allen Radiation
> belts - micrometeorites - plenty of deadly hazards. I grew up right
> next door to Johnson Space Center - I've seen first hand the objects
> and artifacts that supposedly went to the moon, and common sense
> does not allow a thinking individual to believe such a story, sorry.
>
> I golf regularly, and know that Allen Shephard's slice on Apollo
> 14's mission is not possible in no atmosphere. Mission control even
> noticed the slice, and mentioned it "live"
>
> Where are the stars? Why are there no impact craters from the lunar
> landing - no dust or dirt on the feet of the lander?
>
> Why is there no engine sound in the audio recording of the lunar
> landing, while an engine is producing 10,000 lbs of thrust feet from
> the astronaut's head?
>
> Why does all of the communication sound scripted?
>
> These are professionals trained to work well under extreme
> pressure, now Look at the press conference after the Apollo 11
> flight. It does not take an expert in body language to see that
> they are very uncomfortable...not elated and excited as would be the
> first people to walk on the moon.
>
> Computer limitations, the combined CSM and LM guidance computers
> totaled 152kb of memory - and this system supposedly traveled
> 60,000% further than any manned spacecraft has gone before or since
> - come on!
>
> We have lost 14 brave shuttle astronauts who never left earth orbit,
> at a distance of under 300 miles.
>
> We had and still have the technology to fake it, but not to land men
> on the moon.
>
> and don't take my word for it - go see for yourself, there are more
> questions than answers.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Warren Sansoucie <warren3174 at hotmail.com>
> To: energylightandlove at yahoo.com; METEORITE LIST <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> >
> Sent: Sat, April 24, 2010 7:27:22 AM
> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit
>
>
> Oh no.
>
> We went to the moon. You will have to get over that dead issue.
> There is too much proof. There are old guys in Australia that
> pointed the dish to the moon to capture the first words ever spoken
> that laugh at people that believe it was a hoax.
>
> You don't understand the meaning of my post. We can't get ourselves
> in orbit due to political nonsense.
>
> Honestly, claiming that we did not go to the moon is a HUGE
> discredit to all of the thousands of people that worked on the
> project.
>
> If we didn't go to the moon, never mind all the evidence that is
> clear, tell me, why didn't the Russians call us out on it???
>
> There was a loss of life during the Apollo missions. Three good men
> lost their lives. To say we didn't go to the moon is to dishonor
> them as well.
>
> Don't take my word for it. Research it yourself. Look at some of the
> Japanese data recently showing the landing sites. They in on it too??
>
> Belief in here say and conjecture leads to insanity. Willie Nelson
> smokes weed and suddenly realizes George Bush blew up the towers. I
> had to listen for 8 years about how stupid our president was. Now an
> old withered pothead has him pegged as one of the greatest evil
> masterminds in history? lol fool me twice...can't fool the fooler
>
> Don't buy into the hype of something someone said under a black
> light whilst having epiphanies from mushrooms. Research things.
>
> Buzz Aldrin said it my favorite way when confronted with moon hoax
> theory..... POW! He hit the guy. An old man getting so upset over
> the hoax nonsense that he lost his composure and offered up lumps
> for a response.
>
> Warren Sansoucie
>
> ----------------------------------------
>> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 07:11:14 -0700
>> From: energylightandlove at yahoo.com
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit
>> To: warren3174 at hotmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> as you said, "LOL! We can't even get ourselves into orbit without
>> help from another country."
>>
>> yet some still think we went to the moon...with technology from
>> 1969, with no loss of life, and no repeat performances in 30 years!
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> Jessica
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Warren Sansoucie
>> To: METEORITE LIST
>> Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 9:30:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit
>>
>>
>>
>> LOL! We can't even get ourselves into orbit without help from
>> another country.
>>
>> Warren Sansoucie
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>>> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 21:20:17 -0700
>>> From: miss_meteorite at yahoo.ca
>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Capturing asteroids in orbit
>>>
>>> I wonder if it would possible to send some machines to the
>>> asteroid belt to capture some whole asteroids and bring them to
>>> Earth? Or would they be drifting too quickly in their orbits to
>>> capture with the current technology? Also would decent-sized
>>> samples from such captures be available to collectors?
>>>
>>> -----------
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>>>
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