[meteorite-list] who were the uncooperative secret searchers ?

From: Bob Loeffler <bobl_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:14:47 -0600
Message-ID: <20090315181445.3407510570_at_mailwash5.pair.com>

Hi Mike and list,

I don't know who Teddy is, but the way I saw it was that he was just trying
to help since nobody else was publicly pulling the stone count data together
into a centralized place. We would all see the numerous e-mails that said
"Rob found x stones", then another that said "Ruben found y stones", etc.
But it would be easy to miss one of the emails, and most of us don't have
time to compile the info ourselves. Maybe someone was already doing that
"behind the scenes" without the list knowing about it, or maybe not. I just
thought that it was nice of Teddy to take the initiative to do it. Did he
have some other motive? Who knows! But I don't see what he could've gotten
from doing this besides a "thank you" and maybe his name credited at the end
of an official report.

On a slightly different tangent, I wanted to say "thanks" to you and all of
the people who did all of the walking of the fields to "rescue" as many of
the West meteorites as possible.

Thanks and regards,

Bob



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Farmer
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:39 PM
To: Meteorite List; Notkin
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] who were the uncooperative secret searchers ?


Geoff

Perhaps you are mistaken in you assumptions.
I along with Robert Woolard asked for that data at first so that the article
in Meteorite Magazine could be written with as much up-to-date information
as possible as we were on an extremely tight time limit.
We got no response from several people, and merely asked several times. I
have all data from the people I was working with, and as I said earlier,
there was no need to provide daily additions until we are finished hunting.
I saw 5 more stones found today, I found one of them. The people I named
were already gone from the field so their totals would be final or nearly
so.

As far as "Teddy" goes. I am a little interested how a person who is
absolutely unknown, and who has never posted a single post to the list
suddenly came to be 48 hours ago and is now the point man for West field
work. Using a GMAIL account and appearing out of nowhere and getting all of
the West data yet nobody knows who he is makes me wonder a few things.

"Teddy" email me your phone number so we can chat, I would like to know who
I am reporting data to.

I am working on this map, I have about 60% of the known stones and to add
your crew's stones would assist not me, but science.
So please let me know the totals if possible or they will not be included.
There is no problem here, no need to argue over this. Everyone seems to be
extremely successful and almost everyone who came found meteorites. Let's
finish it up and get the data assembled in the best way possible.
Michael Farmer

Still in the field, but it looks like heavy rain starting tonight.


--- On Tue, 3/10/09, Notkin <geoking at notkin.net> wrote:

> From: Notkin <geoking at notkin.net>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] who were the uncooperative secret searchers
?
> To: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 9:40 AM
> Michael Farmer wrote:
>
> > Steve Arnold Notkin
> > Thompson Phillips wesel
> > All are refusing to share a scrap of data
> > Mike
>
>
> Mike:
>
> I suggest you get your facts straight before you start
> accusing my team mates of anything.
>
> Rob Wesel, Patrick Thompson, Ruben Garica, Jason Philips,
> Mike Miller, Steve Arnold, John Sinclair and myself have all
> already provided our find numbers and weights to Teddy. I'm
> sure other numbers will be forthcoming when the finders are
> comfortable with it.
>
> As mentioned earlier on the List, we took several guys out
> with us who found their first meteorite on this trip. We
> also hunted with some of our gracious landowners and showed
> them how to find meteorites on their own property, and asked
> them to let us know if they turned up anything in future. As
> such, I will not have the great group of people I was
> hunting with portrayed on the List as "uncooperative secret
> searchers." I notice that your team members Robert and
> Shauna did not have their totals posted on Teddy's list.
> Maybe you could devote your energy to collecting data from
> your own people before complaining about anyone else.
>
> It's excellent that detailed find data is being compiled on
> this fall. This may be the most accurate strewnfield data
> collected in the US since Jim Kriegh, Twink Monrad, John
> Blennert and friends mapped Gold Basin in the 1990s. And it
> would be even better if we could get along while doing it,
> without pointing fingers.
>
>
> Geoff N.
>
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