[meteorite-list] Witnessed Falls and Hammers - CARANCAS

From: cdtucson at cox.net <cdtucson_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:14:30 -0700
Message-ID: <20090310161430.VIM60.68819.imail_at_fed1rmwml32>

Michael,
Here is a video link that proves that Carancas killed a bull. You should add this to your web site. How much more proof could you ask for?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPY6gY_5gsw

Carl Esparza
IMCA 5829
Meteoritemax


---- Michael Blood <mlblood at cox.net> wrote:
> In the case of Carancas, there are strong indications
> That a Llama and a ewe were killed by the shock
> Wave upon impact. (people reported this, and when
> Others expressed doubt, scientific evidence of the power
> Of the shock wave at the distance reported indicated
> Non-Homo sapiens mammals were definitely succeptable
> to a life threatening shock wave impact).
> Best wishes, Michael (PS There was also a large
> Dirt clod that clobbered a house a couple hundred
> Yards away. Apparently this "clod" had meteorite
> Fragments included, as numerous small fragments
> Were found around the building, though none were
> Found at that distance away from the building.
>
>
> > From: Jeff Kuyken <info at meteorites.com.au>
> > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:46:01 +1100
> > To: Meteorite List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed Falls and Hammers - warning, LONG.
> >
> > I would tend to agree with this. I'm also curious why Carancas is on the
> > list as a 'hammer'. There was only one mass which hit the ground. I know
> > dirt clods hit buildings etc. but I was unaware of another mass hitting
> > something man-made. Can someone please correct me if I'm wrong here?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff Grossman" <jgrossman at usgs.gov>
> > To: "Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed Falls and Hammers - warning, LONG.
> >
> >
> > It seems to me that this marketing term "hammer" should only be applied
> > to the actual stone(s) that hit a structure, not an entire shower.
> > Thus, Moss stone #5 is a hammer since it went through a roof, but stone
> > #2 is not since it only hit a tree and landed in some grass.
> >
> > jeff
> >
> > mail at mhmeteorites.com wrote:
> >> I think to be considered a hammer the meteorite needs to hit a human-made
> >> structure, like a building or car. Seems to me that many have taken the
> >> term and bastardized it to the point where it has lost its true meaning
> >> and interest (at least to me).
> >> Matt
> >> Matt Morgan
> >> Mile High Meteorites
> >> http://www.mhmeteorites.com
> >> P.O. Box 151293
> >> Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
> >>
> >> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 17:13:33 To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed Falls and Hammers - warning, LONG.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ehm is Ourique a hammer too?
> >> It hit a man made dirt road.
> >> And Hosur made a hole in a road too.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> >> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von
> >> Michael
> >> Gilmer
> >> Gesendet: Montag, 9. M?rz 2009 16:57
> >> An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> >> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Witnessed Falls and Hammers - warning, LONG.
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Listees! :)
> >>
> >> I was compiling my latest inventory list, when I noticed that my
> >> collection of witnessed falls and hammers is growing to a semi-respectable
> >> number - albeit still quite small compared to some
> >> of the envious collections other list members have.
> >>
> >> So I thought I would ask the list - how many witnessed falls and
> >> how many hammers do you have in your collection?
> >>
> >> Right now, I have 25 witnessed falls and 11 hammers :
> >>
> >> Hammer falls -
> >>
> >> Allende
> >> Carancas
> >> Claxton
> >> Gao Guenie
> >> Holbrook
> >> Moss
> >> Murchison
> >> New Orleans
> >> Park Forest
> >> Peekskill
> >> Weston
> >>
> >> Other witnessed falls -
> >>
> >> Bassikounou
> >> Chergach
> >> Ensisheim
> >> Juvinas
> >> Norton County
> >> Shalka
> >> Sikhote Alin
> >> Tagish Lake
> >> Tamdakht
> >> Tatahouine
> >> Udei Station
> >> "West" Texas
> >> Zag
> >> Zagami
> >>
> >> This is only the beginning of my obsession with certain witnessed
> >> falls and hammers. I only collect recent falls that happened
> >> after I started collecting in late 2006. So, basically from
> >> Bassikounou forward is fair game. This is an arbitrary starting
> >> point, but it has meaning for me and gives me a firm boundary
> >> line to base my fall collection on. I am missing quite a few
> >> recent falls - mainly the hard to acquire ones like Cali, Berduc,
> >> Buzzard Coulee and others which are not legally on the market or
> >> are too rare/expensive for me to afford at the moment.
> >>
> >> As for my hammers - I have no conditions on collecting them. Any
> >> meteorite or fall that struck something is fair game and I want it.
> >> The more interesting the story behind a given hammer, the more
> >> interested I am in acquiring it. Claxton is awesome. Imagine
> >> how small a mailbox is. Even when considering there are millions
> >> of postal boxes around the world, what are the chances of a meteorite
> >> hitting one? To me, that is interesting. Peekskill
> >> is another great hammer - it creamed a Chevy Malibu. Of course,
> >> Peekskill may have been more interesting if it had struck an
> >> occupied vehicle, a police car, a hearse, or some other exceptional
> >> circumstance. But until that happens, a Chevy Malibu will suffice. ;)
> >>
> >> New Orleans? Very interesting. First, it struck a house, but
> >> it also tore a path of destruction through the house, destroying
> >> a desk. That makes it worth collecting. But even more interesting
> >> is the overlooked fact that New Orleans is the only visitor to
> >> New Orleans to visit the area and not come away drunk, drugged,
> >> tattooed or sans virginity. ;)
> >>
> >> Weston? Well, even if Thomas Jefferson had uttered the famous
> >> phrase he was misquoted for, the damn Yankee professors didn't lie.
> >> Anything that make a founding father look dense is worth collecting.
> >> I love Carancas - because it's a tease. I would love to have a
> >> fully-crusted, whole individual. But who wouldn't? It's like
> >> Tatahouine - you aren't getting any crust and you aren't getting
> >> a whole individual, no matter how much money you offer. You can't
> >> buy what doesn't exist, so Carancas and Tatahouine are the two
> >> teases of the meteorite world. But we love to be teased, so these
> >> two falls will always be favorites of mine. Did anyone ever
> >> find out what the so-called noxious fumes were that supposedly
> >> emanated from the Carancas crater?
> >>
> >> Murchison? Smelled like rotten eggs, contains a bumper crop of
> >> amino acids, and is an interesting carbonaceous type. It also fell
> >> on my wife's 8th birthday. So, it's a must have. We are fortunate
> >> that Murch happened before the Australians lost all good sense and
> >> got retarded about their meteorite laws.
> >> Allende! Who doesn't love Allende? If you don't love Allende,
> >> then you are a communist, a criminal, and you should be run out of
> >> town on a rail. Allende is Mexico's Murchison. And unlike
> >> Murchison, you don't have to mortgage your house to own a decent
> >> piece of Allende.
> >> Park Forest is also a favorite. It's not just a hammer, it's a
> >> multiple impactor. It's arguably one of the most prolific hammers.
> >> Park Forest beaned, struck, dented, and walloped a wide variety
> >> of targets.
> >> Well, that's some of my favorite hammers and falls. What are your's?
> >>
> >> Best regards and clear skies!
> >>
> >> MikeG
> >>
> >> PS - Everyone say hello to Mr. Michael Blood, who I know it reading
> >> this post! By putting "hammers" in the title, I have ensured
> >> Mr. Blood's attention and response. ;) LOL :)
> >>
> >> .........................................................
> >> Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
> >> Member of the Meteoritical Society.
> >> Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
> >> Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com
> >> ..........................................................
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ______________________________________________
> >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com
> >> Meteorite-list mailing list
> >> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> >>
> >> ______________________________________________
> >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com
> >> Meteorite-list mailing list
> >> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> >> ______________________________________________
> >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com
> >> Meteorite-list mailing list
> >> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184
> > US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383
> > 954 National Center
> > Reston, VA 20192, USA
> >
> >
> > ______________________________________________
> > http://www.meteoritecentral.com
> > Meteorite-list mailing list
> > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> >
> >
> > ______________________________________________
> > http://www.meteoritecentral.com
> > Meteorite-list mailing list
> > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
>
>
> ______________________________________________
> http://www.meteoritecentral.com
> Meteorite-list mailing list
> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Received on Tue 10 Mar 2009 04:14:30 PM PDT