[meteorite-list] Witnessed Falls and Hammers - warning, LONG.

From: Walter Branch <waltbranch_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:58:35 -0400
Message-ID: <34D98294F52D47FAA6BCE5595E3318A7_at_Walter>

>It seems to me that this marketing term "hammer" should
>only be applied

Yes Jeff, you are absolutely correct. A distinction I made a post a few
months ago.

-Walter Branch


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Grossman" <jgrossman at usgs.gov>
To: "Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed Falls and Hammers - warning, LONG.


It seems to me that this marketing term "hammer" should only be applied
to the actual stone(s) that hit a structure, not an entire shower.
Thus, Moss stone #5 is a hammer since it went through a roof, but stone
#2 is not since it only hit a tree and landed in some grass.

jeff

mail at mhmeteorites.com wrote:
> I think to be considered a hammer the meteorite needs to hit a human-made
> structure, like a building or car. Seems to me that many have taken the
> term and bastardized it to the point where it has lost its true meaning
> and interest (at least to me).
> Matt
> Matt Morgan
> Mile High Meteorites
> http://www.mhmeteorites.com
> P.O. Box 151293
> Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
>
> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 17:13:33 To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed Falls and Hammers - warning, LONG.
>
>
> Ehm is Ourique a hammer too?
> It hit a man made dirt road.
> And Hosur made a hole in a road too.
>
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von
> Michael
> Gilmer
> Gesendet: Montag, 9. M?rz 2009 16:57
> An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Witnessed Falls and Hammers - warning, LONG.
>
>
> Hi Listees! :)
>
> I was compiling my latest inventory list, when I noticed that my
> collection of witnessed falls and hammers is growing to a semi-respectable
> number - albeit still quite small compared to some
> of the envious collections other list members have.
>
> So I thought I would ask the list - how many witnessed falls and
> how many hammers do you have in your collection?
>
> Right now, I have 25 witnessed falls and 11 hammers :
>
> Hammer falls -
>
> Allende
> Carancas
> Claxton
> Gao Guenie
> Holbrook
> Moss
> Murchison
> New Orleans
> Park Forest
> Peekskill
> Weston
>
> Other witnessed falls -
>
> Bassikounou
> Chergach
> Ensisheim
> Juvinas
> Norton County
> Shalka
> Sikhote Alin
> Tagish Lake
> Tamdakht
> Tatahouine
> Udei Station
> "West" Texas
> Zag
> Zagami
>
> This is only the beginning of my obsession with certain witnessed
> falls and hammers. I only collect recent falls that happened
> after I started collecting in late 2006. So, basically from
> Bassikounou forward is fair game. This is an arbitrary starting
> point, but it has meaning for me and gives me a firm boundary
> line to base my fall collection on. I am missing quite a few
> recent falls - mainly the hard to acquire ones like Cali, Berduc,
> Buzzard Coulee and others which are not legally on the market or
> are too rare/expensive for me to afford at the moment.
>
> As for my hammers - I have no conditions on collecting them. Any
> meteorite or fall that struck something is fair game and I want it.
> The more interesting the story behind a given hammer, the more
> interested I am in acquiring it. Claxton is awesome. Imagine
> how small a mailbox is. Even when considering there are millions
> of postal boxes around the world, what are the chances of a meteorite
> hitting one? To me, that is interesting. Peekskill
> is another great hammer - it creamed a Chevy Malibu. Of course,
> Peekskill may have been more interesting if it had struck an
> occupied vehicle, a police car, a hearse, or some other exceptional
> circumstance. But until that happens, a Chevy Malibu will suffice. ;)
>
> New Orleans? Very interesting. First, it struck a house, but
> it also tore a path of destruction through the house, destroying
> a desk. That makes it worth collecting. But even more interesting
> is the overlooked fact that New Orleans is the only visitor to
> New Orleans to visit the area and not come away drunk, drugged,
> tattooed or sans virginity. ;)
>
> Weston? Well, even if Thomas Jefferson had uttered the famous
> phrase he was misquoted for, the damn Yankee professors didn't lie.
> Anything that make a founding father look dense is worth collecting.
> I love Carancas - because it's a tease. I would love to have a
> fully-crusted, whole individual. But who wouldn't? It's like
> Tatahouine - you aren't getting any crust and you aren't getting
> a whole individual, no matter how much money you offer. You can't
> buy what doesn't exist, so Carancas and Tatahouine are the two
> teases of the meteorite world. But we love to be teased, so these
> two falls will always be favorites of mine. Did anyone ever
> find out what the so-called noxious fumes were that supposedly
> emanated from the Carancas crater?
>
> Murchison? Smelled like rotten eggs, contains a bumper crop of
> amino acids, and is an interesting carbonaceous type. It also fell
> on my wife's 8th birthday. So, it's a must have. We are fortunate
> that Murch happened before the Australians lost all good sense and
> got retarded about their meteorite laws.
> Allende! Who doesn't love Allende? If you don't love Allende,
> then you are a communist, a criminal, and you should be run out of
> town on a rail. Allende is Mexico's Murchison. And unlike
> Murchison, you don't have to mortgage your house to own a decent
> piece of Allende.
> Park Forest is also a favorite. It's not just a hammer, it's a
> multiple impactor. It's arguably one of the most prolific hammers.
> Park Forest beaned, struck, dented, and walloped a wide variety
> of targets.
> Well, that's some of my favorite hammers and falls. What are your's?
>
> Best regards and clear skies!
>
> MikeG
>
> PS - Everyone say hello to Mr. Michael Blood, who I know it reading
> this post! By putting "hammers" in the title, I have ensured
> Mr. Blood's attention and response. ;) LOL :)
>
> .........................................................
> Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
> Member of the Meteoritical Society.
> Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
> Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com
> ..........................................................
>
>
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